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Muhammad Maher

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Joined: Apr. 14 2012

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Can anybody help me to choose between Cordoba f7 and Manuel rodriguez c3f and paco castillo 213f

Thanks

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 24 2012 9:21:51

Elie

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RE: opinion (in reply to Muhammad Maher)

I suggest that you stay away from Manuel rodriguez c3f
I tried it and didn't like it

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 24 2012 13:59:35

Muhammad Maher

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RE: opinion (in reply to Muhammad Maher)

Thanks Elie but what about cordoba f7?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 24 2012 14:25:09

Ramirez

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Joined: Apr. 16 2005

RE: opinion (in reply to Elie)

That's funny - I had my Manuel rodriguez c3f for many years and loved it.

Really, I wouldn't worry too much about the guitar - at that price range, there isn't much between them - they're all more than adequate for learning on.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 24 2012 14:35:38

Anders Eliasson

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RE: opinion (in reply to Muhammad Maher)

Look at the stringheight above the soundboard. Go for something in the 7 - 9mm range.
Cheap flamencos are all overbuilt, heavy, poor pulsation. They can be used to learn some things on, but if you want a guitar that is more responsive and that´ll teach you things, then you have to pay more.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 24 2012 16:00:18

wannabeguitarrist

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RE: opinion (in reply to Anders Eliasson)

I'm also in the process of getting me an entry-level flamenco guitar.

I purchased a Cordoba 45FM, which I mostly like, but the high E string has a very annoying buzz on fret 7 and higher. I went to the local guitar center and brought home a Yamaha CG172SF to compare. The Action on the Yamaha is way lower than on the 45FM, but the D string has a horrible buzz pretty much elsewhere (all other strings are fine). Tone wise, the 45FM is clearly richer, but if I could get rid of the fret-buzz on the Yamaha while not loosing playability, it would be a keeper.

To compare with these two, I ordered a Cordoba F7 on Amazon, I should have it next week and will get back here to post my impressions. My plan is to keep one or none of these guitars eventually, my hopes are on the Cordoba F7.

I tried the Kremona Rosa Morena and Conde Hermanos C3 at Guitar Center and they both had good tone but so-so playability (action + neck shape).

Being from myself from Spain (I have a real Spanish accent :)), I would like to eventually become good enough to justify a Spanish made guitar. I'll be in Spain during the summer, but don't think bringing a guitar back with me (I live in San Diego, CA) would be doable.

What do you guys think is the price level where you get the playability and tone of a good flamenco guitar, but you don't pay too much for the name brand and other cosmetic stuff?

Thanks,
David.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 24 2012 0:49:27

keith

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Joined: Sep. 29 2009
From: Back in Boston

RE: opinion (in reply to wannabeguitarrist)

wannabe--a lot of the factory guitars are poorly set up--usually the action is a little too high. playability can usually be resolved with a little work.

as to spanish made guitars--some of the best flamenco guitars are built in countries other than spain. aaron green guitars are a good example of flamenco guitars that are considered by many to be one of the best. aaron builds guitars in central massachusetts--a very un-spanish locale.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 24 2012 1:08:40

HolyEvil

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Joined: Nov. 6 2008
From: Sydney, Australia

RE: opinion (in reply to Elie)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Elie

I suggest that you stay away from Manuel rodriguez c3f
I tried it and didn't like it

i second that. I tried one.. super super dead...

try the Katoh flamenco guitar or the new yamaha.. it's pretty good.
I prefer the katoh, the bridge is lower and feel more like a proper flamenco.

or get the sanchis lopez in the classified for 1k. pretty good deal =)

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 24 2012 1:45:45

wannabeguitarrist

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Joined: May 23 2012

RE: opinion (in reply to keith)

Hi Keith
I agree that very good luthiers can be found outside of Spain, but Aaron's more economic model is $7.5K, which I doubt I'll ever be worth of :)

David.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 24 2012 1:48:00

Shawn Brock

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From: Louisville KY

RE: opinion (in reply to Muhammad Maher)

Hey Wannabe, please, please please don't take this the wrong way but... With the money you have spent on the 2 Cordoba's and the Yamaha, you probably could have gotten a pretty damn good starter guitar. Of course you can return the Yamaha to Guitar Center within 30 days of buying it, and maybe you have, and maybe you already returned the Cordoba 45 as well. If that's the case I'm out of context here. Head on over to the classifieds here on the foro and check out this guitar Keith is selling. If $1000 is something you can afford, this would make a great guitar for one of you guys!

To give my opinion on the original question, I have never played a Paco Castillo so I can't speak about those guitars. Between the other 2 I would go with the Cordoba 7F. As Anders said, measure how high the strings are off of the top. Playability and sound are always the most important, and for flamenco how high the strings are off of the body is a big part of playability as you move on to doing golpe... I have been impressed with the "Rosa" for the price, but I have only played 3 of them, and 1 of the 3 wasn't as good as the other 2.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 24 2012 1:53:06

Ramon Amira

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From: New York City

RE: opinion (in reply to Muhammad Maher)

Never played that Castillo, but I would recommend the Cordoba F7 over the Rodriquez. But don't expect too much from any guitar in that general category.

Ramon

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 24 2012 2:02:19

wannabeguitarrist

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RE: opinion (in reply to Shawn Brock)

I plan to return the Cordoba 45FM and the Yamaha, will wait for the Cordoba 7F but Amazon has a pretty good return policy, 30 days and they charge only $20 for UPS pick up.

I can afford $1000, I just want to maximize the amount of guitar/$ I get. I bet this ratio is not best to be found on a $7500 guitar.

David.

quote:

sanchis lopez

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 24 2012 2:05:04

Arash

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From: Iran (living in Germany)

RE: opinion (in reply to wannabeguitarrist)

quote:

ORIGINAL: wannabeguitarrist

I plan to return the Cordoba 45FM and the Yamaha, will wait for the Cordoba 7F but Amazon has a pretty good return policy, 30 days and they charge only $20 for UPS pick up.

I can afford $1000, I just want to maximize the amount of guitar/$ I get. I bet this ratio is not best to be found on a $7500 guitar.

David.

quote:

sanchis lopez