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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 28 2003 21:00:39

Florian

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RE: Finally a definition -What is ja... (in reply to Guest)

I often use the expression , jazzy chord , jazzy scale to describe a modern flamenco scale, is more to describe a sount type. I never say is jazz i say is jazzy sounding.

It might not mean anything in jazz but is the only way i can describe it.

Whenever i say a jazzy scale i bet everyone here in theyr head they get the idea of what i mean.

btw, I love those jazzy scales so yesterday i went out and purchased 2 books trying to expand my knolodge : One is : JAZZ SCALES FOR GUITAR,by mel bay, the other is :INCREDIBLE SCALE FINDER, by hal leonard.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 29 2003 5:15:57

bailoro2000

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RE: Finally a definition -What is ja... (in reply to Guest)

Hi Andy.

Read your post with interest because I've just heard a couple of "flamenco" tracks from the new Diego Amador album "Hondo Piano" As music it was great and Amador is a very talented pianist. Found it hard to see as anything but my idea of Moroccan jazz (-:

If you want to listen, the tracks are up on www.flamenco-world.com

Not my idea of flamenco, just great music. I'd like to hear you comments.

Regds., Jim.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 29 2003 13:48:37

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 29 2003 15:48:39

Paleto

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From: San Diego, CA

RE: Finally a definition -What is ja... (in reply to Guest)

Thanks Andy,

I have also tried to think about how to distinguish them.

I agree with you completely.

Jazz is far more complicated harmonically than previous references implied.

It also folows a very different kind of impovisation than does flamenco

Anthony

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 29 2003 16:11:37

sbarnard

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From: Marengo, IL, EE UU

RE: Finally a definition -What is ja... (in reply to bailoro2000)

Speaking of jazz and flamenco, for those of you who are in or around Chicago, Chano Dominguez is playing at the Chicago Jazz Festival on Sunday, Aug 31st at the Petrillo Music Shell.

Scott

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 29 2003 16:13:38

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RE: Finally a definition -What is ja... (in reply to Guest)

Have you evr listened to the cante por bulerias de Cadiz? It might begin in E/F, change to A/Bb, to E major, A majoe, E minor, A minor. This is not jazz.

Sean

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 31 2003 14:17:25

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 2 2003 19:23:15

zata

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RE: Finally a definition -What is ja... (in reply to Guest)

Andy, I appreciate your interesting analysis, but I don't think anyone ever actually claimed contemporary flamenco was the equivalent of jazz, but rather that it does not sound like flamenco and indeed sounds a lot like jazz. It has less to do with music theory than with the mental landscape painted by different kinds of music.

Estela 'Zata'

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 4 2003 14:01:51