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Florian -> RE: Finally a definition -What is jazz and what is flamenco. (Aug. 29 2003 5:15:57)

I often use the expression , jazzy chord , jazzy scale to describe a modern flamenco scale, is more to describe a sount type. I never say is jazz i say is jazzy sounding.

It might not mean anything in jazz but is the only way i can describe it.

Whenever i say a jazzy scale i bet everyone here in theyr head they get the idea of what i mean.


btw, I love those jazzy scales so yesterday i went out and purchased 2 books trying to expand my knolodge : One is : JAZZ SCALES FOR GUITAR,by mel bay, the other is :INCREDIBLE SCALE FINDER, by hal leonard.



bailoro2000 -> RE: Finally a definition -What is jazz and what is flamenco. (Aug. 29 2003 13:48:37)

Hi Andy.

Read your post with interest because I've just heard a couple of "flamenco" tracks from the new Diego Amador album "Hondo Piano" As music it was great and Amador is a very talented pianist. Found it hard to see as anything but my idea of Moroccan jazz (-:

If you want to listen, the tracks are up on www.flamenco-world.com

Not my idea of flamenco, just great music. I'd like to hear you comments.

Regds., Jim.



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Paleto -> RE: Finally a definition -What is jazz and what is flamenco. (Aug. 29 2003 16:11:37)

Thanks Andy,

I have also tried to think about how to distinguish them.

I agree with you completely.

Jazz is far more complicated harmonically than previous references implied.

It also folows a very different kind of impovisation than does flamenco

Anthony



sbarnard -> RE: Finally a definition -What is jazz and what is flamenco. (Aug. 29 2003 16:13:38)

Speaking of jazz and flamenco, for those of you who are in or around Chicago, Chano Dominguez is playing at the Chicago Jazz Festival on Sunday, Aug 31st at the Petrillo Music Shell.

Scott



Guest -> RE: Finally a definition -What is jazz and what is flamenco. (Aug. 31 2003 14:17:25)

Have you evr listened to the cante por bulerias de Cadiz? It might begin in E/F, change to A/Bb, to E major, A majoe, E minor, A minor. This is not jazz.

Sean



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zata -> RE: Finally a definition -What is jazz and what is flamenco. (Sep. 4 2003 13:07:33)

Andy, I appreciate your interesting analysis, but I don't think anyone ever actually claimed contemporary flamenco was the equivalent of jazz, but rather that it does not sound like flamenco and indeed sounds a lot like jazz. It has less to do with music theory than with the mental landscape painted by different kinds of music.

Estela 'Zata'



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Ron.M -> RE: Finally a definition -What is jazz and what is flamenco. (Sep. 4 2003 14:43:22)

Andy,
Maybe it IS Jazz, but Jazz purists find it too Flamenco to be proper Jazz. [;)]

Ron



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