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Posts: 407
Joined: May 26 2010
From: Sarpsborg,Norway
RE: This is the most perfect Flamenc... (in reply to rombsix)
Hoho Ramon was a seasoned viking
No i think his playing is speaking to me in a way, maybe like you and the Kings?
I also like Diego Carrasco alot.. Different story though
To Ron:
I really like those vids, I think it is nice with more earthy Flamenco, but i like that there is kind of more stories in Flamenco now, the one you go and watch on stage and the one where you sit there and are taking part in, I hope you know what i mean
Lately ive been looking at buying Camaron cd's but they cost like 50 euros here for some reason
RE: This is the most perfect Flamenc... (in reply to Ron.M)
Moraito is the one I like the most, because he has the same taste that I have . he looks like a nice funny guy too. I know at least that he is very sarcastic in his bulerias. I would love to meet him some day and take lessons with him.
Ramon was a monster player in his day. He did a lot of duet with Marote as well which was fantastic. If it hadnt been for Paco he would probably have been one of the best known players in Spain. Anecdotelly I was told that Paco himself said that the material on the first 2 albums was based on exercises and pieces that he learned from his brothers.
Posts: 407
Joined: May 26 2010
From: Sarpsborg,Norway
RE: This is the most perfect Flamenc... (in reply to Pimientito)
That price is alot better, Ill look in spain first i guess, then look at the deal in the link, i feel bad using youtube to listen to artists and not buying as well, Thanks for that too Pim
Ramon also supported his little brother alot right? That too is admireable, too me atleast. Sometimes he feels like the forgotten one in a way. But I guess it isnt totally wrong of me to see Ramon as very very important figure In Flamenco today then
Posts: 1956
Joined: Dec. 2 2006
From: Budapest, now in Southampton
RE: This is the most perfect Flamenc... (in reply to odinz)
just the other day i was listening to Ramón accompanying Camarón, while i have respect for the guy, i hated the fact that he didn't let the cante breath even a little, like he had the urge to play into everything, just couldn't stop...he annoyed me a lot...
RE: This is the most perfect Flamenc... (in reply to Yojimbo)
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I can't stand those flamenco singers. Gives me a headache and ruins the guitar playing.
Yeah, I'm a philistine.
You're probably dead to most foro members now. I like Jesse Cook and the Gipsy Kings (and the guitarist whose name is NEVER to be uttered, whose style is somewhat similar to the above-mentioned two artists), so I guess I'm condemnation-worthy as well...
RE: This is the most perfect Flamenc... (in reply to kudo)
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you are a philistine? i guess you mean from palestine? well guess what, im not surprised, why? because you are used to hearing the "sweet voice" of arabic singers whose lyrics are completely BS & crap (should i mention the famous stupid song "ba ba fein, ba ba heina" which translates to " where is daddy?, daddy is here" just look how stupid this is, and yet arabs went crazy about it and loved it)
Kudo, walaw ya zalamé? Rawwe2 belak shway! I was just joking about the "dead to members" part!
Philistine is defined as follows: a person who is lacking in or hostile or smugly indifferent to cultural values, intellectual pursuits, aesthetic refinement, etc., or is contentedly commonplace in ideas and tastes.
It has nothing to do with being from Palestine, or an Arab. Yojimbo is from Toronta, Canada, and I think he does NOT even speak Arabic!
I understand you're a passionate flamenco lover, Kudo, but you have to be more accepting of other people's views. State your own views of things, but not in a very combative way. Poor Yojimbo! He probably crapped his pants when he read your post!
I'll let you two kiss and make up now, while I go back to studying.
RE: This is the most perfect Flamenc... (in reply to Yojimbo)
Yojimbo...
You know when you were a wee boy and liked ice cream and sweeties and cake and hated anything sour tasting?
Then you grow up a bit and try some Mexican or Indian food and think "well...it's not sweet, it's not sugar...but there's something about it I need more of....
RE: This is the most perfect Flamenc... (in reply to Ron.M)
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I can't stand those flamenco singers. Gives me a headache and ruins the guitar playing.
i cant stand guitar playing without singing...has no purpose or meaning...its just piss farting around self gratification, waiting for the singer to come in
RE: This is the most perfect Flamenc... (in reply to Ron.M)
I've tried to develop a taste for it - but it just sounds like noise to me. Perhaps, as suggested earlier, my tastes will develop further as I "mature".
On the other hand, I bet I'm not alone.
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RE: This is the most perfect Flamenc... (in reply to Ron.M)
Hi kudo,
I'm glad you deleted it!
because you wasn't being fair, i mean C'mon man! "baba fein" is a song for children, what do you expect?
I'm an Arab and i never liked that song.
its true that most of today's music and lyrics are crap! (and that's not just in the Arab world!)
but its not fair to say that ALL Arab singer's lyrics are "crap" don't you think? there are some great stuff.
and to be honest when i first listened to flamenco singing i didn't like it that much! (maybe a little)
BUT now when i listen to it... well, i can't really find the words to describe!.
Anyway, i don't think that's really your opinion about Arab singers you probably just said that while you were angry.
but seriously man, you should learn how to control yourself and be cool when someone say something that you don't like, i mean what if someone said to your face that he doesn't like flamenco? i feel like you would stab him in the neck and burn his house!
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. he looks like a nice funny guy too. I know at least that he is very sarcastic in his bulerias. I would love to meet him some day and take lessons with him. 
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