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haruto

 

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Cheap guitar for Flamenco? 
Hey everyone,

I am relatively new to flamenco but have been playing guitar for a few years. I have a cheap student guitar right now and I want to upgrade to something a little better for flamenco playing. I am looking to spend somewhere between $300-$400 on a new guitar. I'm not taking lessons or anything, just been self teaching for fun ever since I got my first guitar. I went to my local music shop and inquired about some classical guitars there, but it didn't look like they were too knowledgeable about classical guitars, let alone flamenco.

Are there guitars that would cater to my flamenco playing needs while being in the price range I suggested? Keep in mind, I'm a college student and I don't have thousands to spend on a guitar. I'm looking for a new guitar because the one I have now is difficult to play, especially when barring chords. I first discovered my guitar sucks after playing on a friends and seeing how much nicer it felt to play on it. His was only $150, but he did buy it fairly recently compared to mine. Just a note, I did change the strings on my guitar thinking it would be easier to play, but it was practically the same save it sounded a little nicer at first.

I was tempted to get a $300 one at the music shop I visited, but I restrained myself and decided to do some research first. Are there specific things I should look for that are better for flamenco playing? Maybe even specific brands or places online you'd recommend to me?

Any help is appreciated!
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 20 2011 23:24:34
 
odinz

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RE: Cheap guitar for Flamenco? (in reply to haruto) 
I would save up a bit more,

you can get better guitars at 600 dollars, maybe a used student level guitar or something.

depends how much you play and all though, if you just sit around at home for fun, you can get by nicely with a cheap guitar.

if you just need something to pluck around on, i dont think even a cheap classical would be that bad.

by the way, you might want to check out rombsix's videos on youtube, he plays a 600$ classical guitar(i think) He gets good sound out of it too


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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 20 2011 23:38:24
 
Ramon Amira

 

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RE: Cheap guitar for Flamenco? (in reply to haruto) 
Get a Yamaha 172 SF - about $350. It will be perfect for what you want. Or maybe if you can find a used 171SF, just as good for your purposes.

Ramon

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 21 2011 4:22:51
 
haruto

 

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RE: Cheap guitar for Flamenco? (in reply to Ramon Amira) 
http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-CG172SF-String-Flamenco-Guitar/dp/B004MDKTIY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1308631127&sr=8-1

This is the one right? I can't seem to find any 171's anywhere.. Are they better than the 172?

And out of curiosity, what makes a guitar a "flamenco guitar" like the one linked above? What's different about it as opposed to a regular classical?
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 21 2011 4:44:24
 
Ramon Amira

 

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RE: Cheap guitar for Flamenco? (in reply to haruto) 
quote:

This is the one right? I can't seem to find any 171's anywhere.. Are they better than the 172?

And out of curiosity, what makes a guitar a "flamenco guitar" like the one linked above? What's different about it as opposed to a regular classical?


Do a search - this has been discussed extensively.

Yes, that's the guitar. I have played both, and in my opinion the 172 is better than the 171, which anyway has been discontinued.

Ramon

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 21 2011 4:54:22
 
haruto

 

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RE: Cheap guitar for Flamenco? (in reply to Ramon Amira) 
Great! Thanks a lot. I think I will be going with the 172SF. Affordable and sounds great from what I've heard on youtube.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 21 2011 5:13:05
 
rombsix

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RE: Cheap guitar for Flamenco? (in reply to odinz) 
quote:

by the way, you might want to check out rombsix's videos on youtube, he plays a 600$ classical guitar(i think) He gets good sound out of it too


Here is me playing an $80 Hohner HC-06 classical guitar.



Here is me playing a $600 José Ramirez R1 classical guitar.



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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 21 2011 6:42:39
 
haruto

 

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RE: Cheap guitar for Flamenco? (in reply to rombsix) 
Very nice! You make that Hohner look amazing! I have the same one, but I can hardly do anything close to that! Thanks for sharing, I think I'm going to go ahead and get the Yamaha though. I've stuck with the Hohner for 4 years, I think I deserve an upgrade :D
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 21 2011 9:59:27
 
rombsix

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RE: Cheap guitar for Flamenco? (in reply to haruto) 
quote:

I've stuck with the Hohner for 4 years, I think I deserve an upgrade :D


I had the Hohner for 3 years before I got the Ramirez. At about my 8th or 9th year of playing, I switched over completely to the Ramirez after having been using both equally. Been playing for 10 years total now.

Interestingly though, the strings on my Ramirez are CRAP now, and I'm too unmotivated at present (with studies) to change them, so I went back to playing a bit on the Hohner, considering its strings are still in quite good shape.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 21 2011 11:13:51
 
El Kiko

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RE: Cheap guitar for Flamenco? (in reply to haruto) 
oh yeah everyone goes with the good ole Yamaha CG171SF
I got one myself .....I had the same problem as you a year ago, and read all about them , and you know I never found anyone who said anything bad about them .
Only good stuff, I got one and now i say only good things about them.

For the price , then I say you really cant get better. for the price...

the problem is the middle guitars as you have paid quite a bit for one and it may not be what you want ....so go cheapish for a Yamaha or go all the way for a good hand made A1 ..avoid the middle ground
Besides your new to Flamenco so you dont have to make a decision for years to come... time to save up as well..........


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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 21 2011 12:36:54
 
gounaro

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RE: Cheap guitar for Flamenco? (in reply to haruto) 
La Sonanta has a cheap Vicente Sanchis. Check it out:

https://www.lasonanta.eu/en/guitarras-flamencas/vicente-sanchis-flamenco-guitar.html

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 21 2011 12:43:26
 
Lucerom

 

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RE: Cheap guitar for Flamenco? (in reply to haruto) 
Check this deal out: guitars/acousticguitars/index.asp?product=9239">http://www.kraftmusic.com/catalog/guitars/acousticguitars/index.asp?product=9239

Yamaha CG172SF Bundle with Case, Stand, Strings, String Winder, Tuner and more for $389 and FREE SHIPPING.

I played this guitar at Guitar Center and really liked it. I'm thinking of selling my Alhambra 3F and purchasing this one.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 21 2011 13:41:28
 
rombsix

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RE: Cheap guitar for Flamenco? (in reply to haruto) 
How's about a CG182SF? No typo...

http://ae.yamaha.com/en/products/musical-instruments/guitars-basses/cl-guitars/cg/cg182sf/?mode=model#page=1

Is that limited edition to the Middle East?

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 21 2011 14:43:10
 
haruto

 

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RE: Cheap guitar for Flamenco? (in reply to Lucerom) 
quote:

La Sonanta has a cheap Vicente Sanchis. Check it out:


A bit above my budget

quote:

Yamaha CG172SF Bundle with Case, Stand, Strings, String Winder, Tuner and more for $389 and FREE SHIPPING.


Awesome! I'm not sure if the bundle is worth the extra $60 though, as the lone guitar costs $330 on amazon. I already have a stand, string winder, and tuner. The shipping is only free though the 24th of this month as well. I guess I'll decide soon though. It'll either be this one, or the one from amazon. Thanks for sharing!
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 21 2011 21:46:19
 
hunter

 

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RE: Cheap guitar for Flamenco? (in reply to haruto) 
I don't have the experience of many but, through my research at the Foro and elsewhere, I came across the Yamaha. This was a little over a year ago and the 171SF was still available. I bought one and my time with it was more than enough to convince me that I could see investing in another flamenco guitar. I did purchase a second guitar, a Navarro, again with help I got from researching the Foro.

I still keep and play the Yamaha often. It sounds good, if not as good as the second guitar, plays very well, and has a more durable finish (compared to the Navarro's french polish) that allows me to worry less about damaging it. I played a 172SF recently and found that it seemed to have decent quality similar to the 171SF. I'm not as fond of the satin finish, but that is personal taste.

hunter
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 24 2011 22:37:46
 
MarTay6

 

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RE: Cheap guitar for Flamenco? (in reply to haruto) 
Hi, Haruto-
You can read my recent (last week!) experience finding and ordering a Yamaha CG-171SF. Guitar Center bought out the last of Yamaha's stock and is closing them out at $299.99. I had to call around to several around the country to find one that wasn't banged up... you can read my experience here: http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=174497&p=1&tmode=1&smode=1.
Ramzi- I learned in my research that the Yamaha CG-182 number was finally changed to the CG-172 when they went into production on them. There doesn't appear to be an actual production model 182.
I read a lot that said the 171 was the better guitar- then I started finding a lot of people that said they preferred the newer 172, so I am not sure which is the better guitar. I can only say I am happy that I found a good 171, as the quality is outstanding for a $300.00 guitar. The gloss finish is well done, and the guitar setup is satisfactory. Good luck!
Wes
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