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Sanchis Lopez vs Sanchis Carpio
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avimuno
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Joined: Feb. 9 2007
From: Paris, France
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RE: Sanchis Lopez vs Sanchis Carpio (in reply to Harry)
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I did not realize Sanchis guitars were "factory" They are! But it's not a huge factory producing thousands of guitars every year a la Alhambra or Camps, but it's not a small crafstman's workshop producing a limited number of instruments either. The brothers are there to supervise the production and quality control. Of Course, they are not 'luthier' made instruments... guitars built by someone from beginning to end. But for the price you won't get that. It's true that they are getting more and more expensive, it's probably better to pay a bit more for a guitar entirely made by a luthier. You can get some very good handmade guitars by very good builders and yet for a very fair and competitive price. There are quite a few of them on this forum. Nealf certainly had a bad experience... it's all about getting a good guitar at the end of the day. I have a Conde Atocha and I can certify that it's a much better guitar than my Sanchis. In fact, I would say that my Conde is also much better than the Sanchis Carpio negra I had for a weekend. But I paid USD 2500 for the Sanchis Lopez and the Conde was about 3 times that price, so it's all relative. I've had a horrendous experience with a Conde Felipe, a bit like nealf with his Sanchis F-Extra. Paid what would constitute a down payment for a house for it and it was... well, quite bad! Does that mean that all guitars Conde makes are horrible? No! I was unlucky to get a bad one. From then on, I have always tried a guitar before buying. I think that a lot of people have spent a lot of money on over-hyped guitars on this forum, I certainly have. I would also tend to agree with nealf concerning the F-Extra... I don't think it's worth the extra dough. When it comes to Sanchis, the best buy is definitely the 1F, period! It's the most guitar for the money, but even they are getting expensive. The best thing for you to do would be to really consider what you're after... what type of guitar, which building tradition, woods, dimensions etc, and have a look around at the different options available for your taste. Have a look into both 'factory' made and 'luthier' made instruments. And if you can, try them. It's very personal but I find that something that has become very important for me when buying a guitar is the resale value of the instrument... don't neglect that aspect, as you might want to sell your guitar one day. Saludos
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Date Feb. 17 2011 4:22:24
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Tomrocker
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From: Italy
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RE: Sanchis Lopez vs Sanchis Carpio (in reply to avimuno)
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The best thing for you to do would be to really consider what you're after... what type of guitar, which building tradition, woods, dimensions etc, and have a look around at the different options available for your taste. Have a look into both 'factory' made and 'luthier' made instruments. And if you can, try them. It's very personal but I find that something that has become very important for me when buying a guitar is the resale value of the instrument... don't neglect that aspect, as you might want to sell your guitar one day. I can't agree more! Andres' Eliasson wrote here once a very good feetback about the Sanchis and the Bernal for the quality of the sound saying they are factory guitars with a resale value& who made them knows definitely what a flamenco sound is. I'm getting a Hermanos Sanchis Lopez by March as a backup guitar to use till my 1A Blanca arrive and i have along time waiting, so soon as i receive it, i'll consider selling the Sanchis. Luthiers guitars are special and The Andres Guitars are definitely awesome, the sound is amazing. It's really wired how a guitar sound can affect you. My teacher is using a Valeriano Bernal Model F and when i try it i just want to buy a similar one for myself not to sell anyomre! I found one that was naturally sold for my bad luck with only 600 Euros in perfect condition, then i found this sanchis for 800 Euros and decided to get it knowing that i can sell it later . The thing i'll surely do before any future purchases considering a Factory guitar is to try and try to play the guitar before buying
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Date Feb. 17 2011 13:14:50
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n85ae
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Joined: Sep. 7 2006
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RE: Sanchis Lopez vs Sanchis Carpio (in reply to Harry)
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Big waste of time, the what guitar discussion IMHO I bought two guitar's through Tom at La Falseta - I gave him a description of I was looking for, and bought what he recommended. In both cases he gave me the option to send them back if I was unhappy with the guitars. I think if you do NOT have the opportunity to play the guitar in person, then this is really the only way to have a reasonable chance of getting something good. That is contact a reputable dealer, willing to stand behind the product they are selling, and go with their advice. The only person I know that fits this is Tom, because I have used him before, and in both cases was satisfied with the results. (there may be others but Tom is the only one I have used) I think you can spend til eternity, discussing, this that and the other guitar on the forum, and still end up with a 50/50 chance of liking/hating what you get. Call Tom (or somebody you trust) tell them what you want, how much you got, and go with their recommendation. Call a reputable Luthier, like one of the guys on the forum (Anders, John, etc) have them build what you want. OR go play a guitar in person. The label/model number in the guitar means nothing, a guitar is either good, or not. This fits every guitar, whether Yamaha, or Conde. Regards, Jeff
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Date Feb. 17 2011 15:10:20
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