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kozz

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From: Eindhoven NL

RE: ****Beginners Challenge Fall 201... (in reply to at_leo_87)

quote:

-..... and reverb is allowed

But it doesn't mean you have to!
IMO rather not, let the guitar sound the way it is.

Adding reverb can be usefull for placement in a mix, or obviously room, but there's only a compas track and your guitar...and before you know it, we're all listening to a track which is recorded in a church or large hall.
Just my personal advise, or rather taste I should say.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 27 2010 2:15:44

at_leo_87

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From: Boston, MA, U.S.A

RE: ****Beginners Challenge Fall 201... (in reply to kozz)

reverb is a double edged sword. it can make the track sound better or really horrible. finding the right balance takes a bit of practice.

i should also add, no flanger, vibrato, distoration, chorus, phaser, or wah wah effects allowed.

and not just in this competition. like forever!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 27 2010 2:24:43

Gummy

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From: North Carolina, USA

RE: ****Beginners Challenge Fall 201... (in reply to kozz)

Thanks Kozz! Good luck everyone, I'll be watching with interest.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 27 2010 2:31:23

ricecrackerphoto

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Joined: Feb. 5 2006

RE: ****Beginners Challenge Fall 201... (in reply to kozz)

i'd like to join this challenge though i just heard about it. jobby job has been relaxing these days and picking up the guitar again after months.

a challenge is exactly what i need to get back into the swing of things!

doug

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 27 2010 11:34:07

at_leo_87

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From: Boston, MA, U.S.A

RE: ****Beginners Challenge Fall 201... (in reply to kozz)

nice! welcome doug!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 27 2010 15:26:00

at_leo_87

Posts: 3055
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From: Boston, MA, U.S.A

RE: **Beginners Challenge Fall 2010*... (in reply to kozz)

We're still quite some time away but we need some more people who can commit to being judges!

Judging will start November 1.
I think the typical judging period was 3 days.
If most of the contestants will follow through, I think we will need more than that, maybe 5 days.

Scoring will be based on technique, aire, and compas. 10 points each, 30 points total.
However, the most helpful part for the contestants is the feedback and comments.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 27 2010 15:27:36

Matic

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From: Slovenija

RE: **Beginners Challenge Fall 2010*... (in reply to at_leo_87)

Hey guys. Great job on making this thing happen again. I'd be glad to contribute some comments as a judge if you like..

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 27 2010 16:02:31

at_leo_87

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From: Boston, MA, U.S.A

RE: ****Beginners Challenge Fall 201... (in reply to kozz)

awesome! thanks matic!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 27 2010 16:05:15

at_leo_87

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From: Boston, MA, U.S.A

RE: ****Beginners Challenge Fall 201... (in reply to kozz)

graham has kindly brought this to my attention.

rickecrackerphoto! you already won a beginner's challenge. you got to step it up to intermediate now, man! you're still free and welcomed to submit an unofficial entry.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 28 2010 5:40:23

ricecrackerphoto

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Joined: Feb. 5 2006

RE: ****Beginners Challenge Fall 201... (in reply to kozz)

dang, talk about throwing down a challenge. i won that beginner's one so long ago i really should be at a different level than where i'm at now. time to step up!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 28 2010 12:00:31

rogeliocan

Posts: 811
Joined: Nov. 23 2009
From: Canada

RE: ****Beginners Challenge Fall 201... (in reply to at_leo_87)

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rickecrackerphoto! you already won a beginner's challenge. you got to step it up to intermediate now, man! you're still free and welcomed to submit an unofficial entry.

Really? If I was to win this challenge and you were to do one with arpeggios, I would not even make it in the first 10. But the unofficial participation is cool, you still get to practice and be rated for you own personal benefit... and detrement of the others who have to listen

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 28 2010 15:35:53

acziraky

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Joined: Jan. 19 2009

RE: ****Beginners Challenge Fall 201... (in reply to kozz)

I won the beginner's challenge last summer

. I would still like to submit an unofficial entry though! Isn't there an intermediate challenge coming up soon?

Happy Practicing!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 30 2010 23:29:24

at_leo_87

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From: Boston, MA, U.S.A

RE: ****Beginners Challenge Fall 201... (in reply to kozz)

yes, there should be an intermediate challenge coming up but the foro seems to be pretty busy with the quick challenges. once there is some more interest, i'll start a new thread.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 1 2010 0:15:19

Ailsa

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From: South East England

RE: ****Beginners Challenge Fall 201... (in reply to at_leo_87)

Hello all,

How is everyone getting on? I can play it now, with some wobbly bits

at a not particularly fast tempo!! My technique is haphazard I know, but I'm so much more interested in playing compas with some aire, that I'm slow to improve.

Am not sure if I'll upload for the challenge, but I've really enjoyed learning it and will definitely include it next time I play Tangos at our monthly student performance in Oxford. I love Moraito

and I love Tangos, so I can't lose really.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 15 2010 21:01:43

Leendert

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From: WI, USA

RE: ****Beginners Challenge Fall 201... (in reply to kozz)

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Hello all,

How is everyone getting on? I can play it now, with some wobbly bits at a not particularly fast tempo!! My technique is haphazard I know, but I'm so much more interested in playing compas with some aire, that I'm slow to improve.

Am not sure if I'll upload for the challenge, but I've really enjoyed learning it and will definitely include it next time I play Tangos at our monthly student performance in Oxford. I love Moraito and I love Tangos, so I can't lose really.

Hi, same for me here....prior to this challenge I have never played any tango whatsoever.....I only have a small quantity of lessons under my belt in Soleares.
So this is absolutely new to me, with lots of listening and practicing...I think I got most of it to sound halfway decent, but I still have quite some practice to put in. I`m particularly having difficulties with the quick hammer-on/pull-off phrase and with the alzapua.
Both of those totally slow me down and throw me out of compas.
Still not sure if I'm gonna be ready to post in time, but I will definitely try as I hope you will too!!....Good luck!!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 15 2010 21:09:49

rogeliocan

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From: Canada

RE: ****Beginners Challenge Fall 201... (in reply to kozz)

Ditto,
the fast parts are the most difficult, mainly the alzapua and following rasgueado for me. The other thing is I never can play it consistently, errors here or there at every play... I find I've plateaued and I need to figure out how to practice to get to the next level.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 15 2010 22:19:28

villain

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Joined: Jul. 19 2009
From: Colorado

RE: Beginners Challenge Fall 2010 (in reply to kozz)

quote:

We could meet uo someday in bar El Duende!

I'll be there the weekend of October 30th and definitely planning on going to Duende :-) Hope to see you there.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 16 2010 0:27:28

cathulu

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Joined: Dec. 15 2006
From: Vancouver, Canukistan

RE: Beginners Challenge Fall 2010 (in reply to villain)

Duende is eluding me!!!! I am not grooving!!!! I had one groovy section - just tapping my foot on the one and the three, really groovy and I was loving it - sounding good, and then I lost it and I can't find it again. ARRRGHHHHH!!!! It was such a brief moment... lost in time.

Anybody found a really groovy tango por medio that would help me get in the mood and find that groove again??????????

And I don't mean Moraito's version which is really groovy but he plays faster than I can play, something a bit slower tempo that makes it easier to groove for me....

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 16 2010 4:31:38

villain

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Joined: Jul. 19 2009
From: Colorado

RE: ****Beginners Challenge Fall 201... (in reply to kozz)

I have a decent one that I just started to use off some cd download I have, I'll see what it's from.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 16 2010 4:37:25

kozz

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Joined: Feb. 26 2009
From: Eindhoven NL

RE: Beginners Challenge Fall 2010 (in reply to villain)

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I'll be there the weekend of October 30th and definitely planning on going to Duende :-) Hope to see you there.

Hee Villain,
I'll have to see if I can make it. Monday I'll here more about when I will be operated....otherwise I'll certainly be there.
If you can make it the 31 also then after 17:00 its playing tangos and bulerias and everyone can participate. Cajon, palmas, guitar whatever you feel like doin'.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 16 2010 7:27:46

Graham_B

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Joined: Jul. 10 2007
From: Leigh, Lancashire, UK

RE: ****Beginners Challenge Fall 201... (in reply to kozz)

Hi Ailsa

quote:

Am not sure if I'll upload for the challenge

Please, please upload!

Every entry is valuable and I'd love to hear how you're progressing.

Does anyone have any ideas for naming the entries this time?
Keep it clean please

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 16 2010 10:34:25

at_leo_87

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From: Boston, MA, U.S.A

RE: ****Beginners Challenge Fall 201... (in reply to kozz)

have we done dinosaurs for names yet? or how about italian dishes.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 16 2010 12:38:54

villain

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Joined: Jul. 19 2009
From: Colorado

RE: Beginners Challenge Fall 2010 (in reply to kozz)

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Hee Villain,
I'll have to see if I can make it. Monday I'll here more about when I will be operated....otherwise I'll certainly be there.
If you can make it the 31 also then after 17:00 its playing tangos and bulerias and everyone can participate. Cajon, palmas, guitar whatever you feel like doin'.

Hope all is well man. and I can certainly make it on the 31st as well. I get in that friday from Helsinki and don't fly out till Tuesday the 2nd. So I will hopefully see you there :-) I'll shoot you a PM as we get closer.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 16 2010 15:18:54

gj Michelob

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From: New York City/San Francisco

RE: ****Beginners Challenge Fall 201... (in reply to at_leo_87)

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how about italian dishes.

I may be partial to Lasagna and Gnocchi, and not too keen on Tortellini or Ravioli... and of course Pizza always has my unconditional vote!!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 16 2010 15:48:21

Ron.M

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RE: ****Beginners Challenge Fall 201... (in reply to gj Michelob)

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quote:

how about italian dishes.

I may be partial to Lasagna and Gnocchi, and not too keen on Tortellini or Ravioli... and of course Pizza always has my unconditional vote!!

Oh... OK..I see now..

I had been thinking Sophia Loren and Gina Lollobrigida...

cheers,

Ron

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 16 2010 16:00:30

at_leo_87

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From: Boston, MA, U.S.A

RE: ****Beginners Challenge Fall 201... (in reply to kozz)

lol @ gj & ron.

or we could be more specific and do pizza toppings.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 16 2010 16:07:38

gj Michelob

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From: New York City/San Francisco

RE: ****Beginners Challenge Fall 201... (in reply to Ron.M)

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I had been thinking Sophia Loren and Gina Lollobrigida...

cheers,

Ron

No No... I am all for how "sexy" flamenco is, but on this path the panel's judgment would be clouded by prurient thoughts, as an imbecille-like stare would shape an equally dumb smile, on the judes' faces, each time they listen to "Monica Bellucci" tangos.

Dangerous.

Pizza and Calzone might tickle a more appripriate note.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 16 2010 16:31:06

villain

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Joined: Jul. 19 2009
From: Colorado

RE: ****Beginners Challenge Fall 201... (in reply to kozz)

I gotta say - I really really love the challenges on here.
They are good practice and rewarding to work on even when not competing and such. It seems like I always come into them late, but just to practice as if I am going to submit is always great...I practice all the time, but having seen this one a couple days ago I have been playing through that blurb so much my fingers are too sore to continue for a few hours :-)
The last one was humbling as no matter how much i thought I had it down playing just by myself, when trying to record it with a compas track, and playing it start to finish for a recording - I was horrible :-) After eventually getting that buleria falsetta down, I grabbed a ton of compas tracks and always try and practice in a similar way. I think I am starting to get this tangos down much quicker than I did when flailing on keeping that buleria in compas, but regardless - It's good stuff. I Just wanted to say thanks!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 17 2010 22:40:23

El Kiko

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From: The South Ireland

RE: ****Beginners Challenge Fall 201... (in reply to at_leo_87)

Is this challenge still open ??/ cos i just noticed it
I also see that any stuff you have on 4shared.com is not available as it is marked ..

This file is no longer available because of a claim by 4shared Support Team.

This doesn't matter so much as I found it on-line here , and thats all I need really.

and so I just started to use that as a guide (after all it is him playing it ,, what better guide)
The Tabs are not exactly as I think they should be but it may also be from a different version,
A bit pushed for time by the 1st of Nov. but maybe I could...........

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 19 2010 21:30:55

at_leo_87

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RE: ****Beginners Challenge Fall 201... (in reply to kozz)

welcome aboard rico!

the tabs aren't perfect and are from different versions. but i'm sure they can be a good reference.

if you are going to transcribe it anyways, maybe you can post your version here? that'd be great!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 20 2010 2:29:29