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QUERY: is it still a Solea if….???
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gj Michelob
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 RE: QUERY: is it still a Solea if….??? (in reply to Ron.M)
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Thank you, Bursche and Ron, for your replies. That Tomatito's piece, Porque Tu Lo Vales is one of my absolute favorite, and it can serve as a perfect example. Yet, generally, whather it is De Lucia or Pena, Amigo or Habichuela, those earmark-phrases are always there. I cannot help feeling that I am betraying the Palo by skipping through as i am.
I guess, as Ron suggests, I should just try it and see what the general reaction will be.
'sounds like you and I are working rather seriously on our compositions, Bursche. I cannot wait to hear yours, I am very fond of your brilliant work.
Merry Christmas.
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Date Dec. 25 2009 17:11:16
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gj Michelob
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RE: QUERY: is it still a Solea if….??? (in reply to Ricardo)
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then you have not studied the form enough
I was hoping you would intervene, Ricardo, but I am afraid I just got scolded, didn’t I?
In my futile defense, I did study the form obsessively, and perhaps that is why I wanted my composition in that form to be significantly different. I realize the danger in both approaches, too conservative may simply plagiarize someone else’s work, too liberal may lose sight of the palo. Then, i suppose only experience can supply the level of confidence I do not have, no matter how deeply I study the form.
This could be a sneak preview of some of the criticism I am about to expose myself to… oh well...
‘feel like quitting, after this.
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Date Dec. 26 2009 15:48:35
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gj Michelob
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RE: QUERY: is it still a Solea if….??? (in reply to HolyEvil)
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Thank you gentlemen for your kindest and encouraging remarks, I went to sleep enveloped in the lowering cloud of depression. When I started composing for this challenge I decided to be true to my commitment (i) compose a new piece (ii) in a traditional palo (as opposed to a toque libre). Above all, I worked really hard on this composition: it was really difficult while I was learning how to play it, now –a few weeks later- it seems quite simple a series of falsetas.
Thank you, HolyEvil, your compliments, undeserved as they maybe, make my heart glow.
Thank you, Por Medio, I think you understood why I am doing this. At my age and station in life, playing Flamenco reminds me of how ignorant I still am about the cultural treasures of our undiscovered world.
Thank you, Pimientito, for not dismissing my concern too hurriedly and for instead offering a word of understanding.
Thank you, Doitsujin, I needed a touch of your uncompromising confidence.
Thank you, Jason, I subscribe to your site, and that –together with this forum, which I worship- is the only teacher my schedule allows. Any encouragement form you is obviously important –as I fear your criticism. Yet my fears also explain the enormous gaps in my learning progress and understanding. I never claimed to be “ready”. I will be forever some hesitant student of this elusive form of art which has hypnotized me.
I might have endeavored on a dangerous mission by composing a Solea. As I wrote earlier, I do not suffer from any mental delusion that I may suddenly posses Jason or Ricardo’s talent or technical arsenal. My only “weapon” is in weaving a melodic texture over the constraints of a rigid form and somehow hope to distract the audience into whistling my notes….
Above all, even if I should make a fool of myself, knowing that some of you may show such kind heart when listening to my work, is the greatest encouragement.
Thank you.
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Date Dec. 27 2009 6:13:04
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gj Michelob
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RE: QUERY: is it still a Solea if….??? (in reply to KMMI77)
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How cowardly of me to even suggest I would quit. I cannot. I instigated this competition, after all, my surrender would send a discouraging message I must avoid.
In fact, my presence lowers the threshold of quality to the ultimate amateur’s level, thus opening a wide window for many a member who may feel otherwise intimidated by competing with the professionals we enjoy on this forum.
Kris, I really hope you too will overcome any fear and contribute your composition.
Jon, thank you for your advice, it is however now too late to “skip bail and hide”… I will stand trial in my own name.
Brusche, I did exactly that, at the beginning, I followed the structure of soleas I heard and watched other musicians play. However, as you certainly experience yourself, a composition will eventually take the lead and take the composer elsewhere.
I like what I composed. I am in Santa Cruz, and last night I sat on the balcony as the skies turned red into the sunset over the ocean’s crushing waves. Cigarettes and wine to perpetrate the ritual, I played my “solea (?)” until my fingers could not take it any more… and I –I mean my own self- I loved it. I thought of you and Ricardo, Jason and Ron, Kris and HolyEvil, Ricecracker and Jim Opfer, Todd and Escribano, Ailsa and At_leo, Doits and Florian, and all the people I love to read and listen to on this forum: I thought what will Tomatito say? And frankly, it did not matter to me, not at that moment, because that was exactly the music I wanted to hear to accompany that wonderful sunset.
This challenge should remain fun and –as Jason wisely pointed out- an educational process for all of us. So let’s enjoy it.
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Date Dec. 28 2009 7:22:33
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