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what defines flamenco for U?
Cante
  37% (13)
Guitar
  28% (10)
Baile
  8% (3)
Palmas
  14% (5)
Jaleo
  11% (4)


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what defines flamenco for U? 
What element is the most essential for the music to be called flamenco?
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 28 2009 8:58:27
 
edguerin

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RE: what defines flamenco for U? (in reply to Guest) 
Multiple answers are possible

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 28 2009 9:07:04
 
Florian

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RE: what defines flamenco for U? (in reply to edguerin) 
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Multiple answers are possible


yes i was glad to see that



...so i guess you dont have much respect for cajon ai Sean ?


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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 28 2009 9:10:36
 
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RE: what defines flamenco for U? (in reply to Guest) 
Compas and soniquete

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 29 2009 7:07:19
 
XXX

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RE: what defines flamenco for U? (in reply to Ricardo) 
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ORIGINAL: Ricardo

Compas and soniquete


Olé, Ricardo! I was going to say 'rythm' or compas, too bad its not listed...
You just have to look closely...
Cante is based on... ? Rythm. Toque is based on ... ? Rythm. Baile? Rythm. Palmas, Cajon, Jaleo,... ? Rythm. Rythm, Rythm, Rythm. Of course the libre palos are also flamenco, but they dont "define" flamenco for me.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 29 2009 7:26:28
 
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RE: what defines flamenco for U? (in reply to Florian) 
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hair wax, long hair and black shirts


Dont forget plastic earings and Ducados

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 30 2009 3:02:11
 
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RE: what defines flamenco for U? (in reply to Guest) 
Canté, compas/soniquete
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 30 2009 3:23:24
 
Jan Willem

 

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RE: what defines flamenco for U? (in reply to Guest) 
quote:

You just have to look closely...
Cante is based on... ? Rythm. Toque is based on ... ? Rythm. Baile? Rythm. Palmas, Cajon, Jaleo,... ? Rythm. Rythm, Rythm, Rythm. Of course the libre palos are also flamenco, but they dont "define" flamenco for me.


IMO Canté is far more essential. Rythm on itself can't project emotions in the same way canté can.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 30 2009 3:30:52
 
XXX

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RE: what defines flamenco for U? (in reply to Jan Willem) 
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ORIGINAL: Jan Willem

IMO Canté is far more essential. Rythm on itself can't project emotions in the same way canté can.


That is a question of what attracts you more in flamenco. Singing is in every music form an essential part, but it doesnt "define" the music form for me. (Music is more abstract, i think). Compas is what makes cante/toque/baile flamenco, and what divides them from all other music styles IMO. Each one can stand on their own, if there is compas. You could even have a rock riff, make it fit nicely in compas, and call it buleria.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 30 2009 4:45:35
 
Ron.M

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RE: what defines flamenco for U? (in reply to XXX) 
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what defines flamenco for U?


A Paco guitar.




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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 30 2009 10:34:35
 
Anders Eliasson

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RE: what defines flamenco for U? (in reply to Guest) 
cante and handmade guitars

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 31 2009 0:09:51
 
mark indigo

 

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RE: what defines flamenco for U? (in reply to Ron.M) 
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what defines flamenco for U?

A Paco guitar.



of course, the maestro of maestro's maestro's invented the flamenco guitar, didn't he....?
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 31 2009 2:37:34
 
mark indigo

 

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RE: what defines flamenco for U? (in reply to Guest) 
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what defines flamenco for U?




What element is the most essential for the music to be called flamenco?


flamenco "forms"

if it's not solea, siguiriyas, bulerias, tangos, tientos, etc. then, to me, it's not flamenco....
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 31 2009 2:41:50
 
at_leo_87

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RE: what defines flamenco for U? (in reply to mark indigo) 
quote:


flamenco "forms"

if it's not solea, siguiriyas, bulerias, tangos, tientos, etc. then, to me, it's not flamenco....


i agree. this is usually how i judge it. some songs/people blur the lines though...

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 31 2009 3:25:46
 
Arash

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RE: what defines flamenco for U? (in reply to Guest) 
Well, i don't want to jump on the (Cante,etc.) bandwagon and am honest and vote for.....

Guitar

But i respect and like Cante, Baile and all other related things very much.

But without Guitar, i would leave the world of flamenco.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 1 2009 12:53:12
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