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Rmn
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 RE: Online music (in reply to rogeliocan)
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NICE! I found stuff of carmen amaya singing from a cd I had lost last year.
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All major music labels are suing Grooveshark
that is rubbish. we are talking here about air vibrating in frequencies that reach our ears and which our brains transform into a certain contentiousness.
air is free and every body's. you can't charge for air being moved by a speaker that you purchased yourself. 
especially with music that was played by artists, recorded by technicians, published by people that are dead right now.
if you compare it to old historical buildings for example: you could pay to get into a touristic historical building. the makers of this building are dead, but it is being maintained by people who charge for the maintaining and stuff.
Old music on the other hand is made once, and it's there. if the people from a website transfer music from a record they bought to mp3 and offer that to listeners there should be no one saying that somebody have to pay anything.
I always offer my songs free on my website for download. At shows I charge 5 euro's for a cd. that's after discovering that people really like to pay for a cd, because like that they want to express their thank more
get real people and loose this elite kind of thing. listening to music seems to be a really snobbish thing. cd's are expensive. people who don't have 24,99 euro for a duquende cd, what? they are not alaught to listen to duquende??
in the end the "music industry" could never "die". because it's a part of a modern musician to express your music in theaters, bars, venues and in a recorded form.
every musician will have a strong need for that. with or without production and distribution companies. set up a home studio or what ever. distrubution is not a problem anymore nowdays with internet.
I'd be glad if these people who have no artistic needs, but only money needs will bleed out of money and some bad companies dissapear.
it will only make musicians even more creative (the way they produce, record and distribute their own music themselfs
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Date Feb. 5 2012 22:17:52
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Shawn Brock
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Joined: Sep. 19 2011
From: Louisville KY
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RE: Online music (in reply to rogeliocan)
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I receive royalties from Spotify, and they amount to a penny or two here and there. At least they do pay something though.
Its all fine for some to think that musicians should give away music, but where do you get the money to record it, mix and master it, and replicate the CD's for those who still want to buy a product?
Gigs don't pay what they used to, there aren't as many as there once was, and the price of CD's here in the U.S have gone down. Musicians used to sell a CD for $15 or $20 10 years ago, now they mostly sell for $10 or $15. Its funny, the price of most things has went up in the last 10 years, but there is less money from gigs and less money in album sales, so what are musicians to do?
Having said that, I don't see a problem with a service streaming music. Streaming music is a lot different than giving someone a free download. People using file sharing to put music on the internet is the big problem. I'll go on record and say that I have probably gotten a thing or two from file sharing that I shouldn't have, and that wasn't the right thing to do... I decided that I just didn't want to live like that.
People just don't think about things... There was a DJ here who was supposed to be my friend, and I'll be damned, I started looking at some of the file sharing sites and he had uploaded my music for the world to get for free! What kind of friend is that? If it wasn't for music this guy wouldn't have had a job spinning records on the radio, and how does he show his thanks? By giving away the means that other people use to make a living! I had a record label who owed me a lot of money for album sales, and they hadn't paid. They hadn't paid because they were slowly and silently going out of business... So here I am not being paid by the label and with a "friend" uploading my music to everyone and their brother to have for free! And I was the only one who seemed to have a problem with it. The label didn't have a problem with not paying any of its artists for product sold, and the DJ thought he was helping musicians out by sharing their music with the world. No one took the time to consider my $20000 investment in recording and musicians, plus all the time I took making the record...
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Date Feb. 6 2012 17:55:21
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chester
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Joined: Oct. 29 2010
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RE: Online music (in reply to Ricardo)
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ORIGINAL: Ricardo
don't worry, you are one of the few NOT ALLOWED to buy my stuff anyway. 
Thanks, I appreciate that.
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I am not all bent out of shape over lose free sharing sites on the internet due to censoring or whatever else
It's not the sharing sites that people were worried about, it's the actual censoring.
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DJ's acting so high as if they ARE musicians is comical. Been going on slow for a long time now, and getting worse. People so confused why economy is getting worse and worse, blaming some handful of people that are making it like its a big conspiracy. Guess what, if you don't contribute, it will not get any better.
I'm not sure what you're getting at with the conspiracy stuff but I agree with the DJ part. 
I don't think that this transition is going to cause music any harm, only the music industry - which means lawyers, marketers, and business-type people. The actual musicians were the lowest-paid part of the industry anyway.
I'm not condoning piracy, just saying that I don't think it's a problem that puts actual art in danger.
For what it's worth, I think it sucks that musicians need to hustle for a living making not so much money. Additionally - I would never pirate someone's self-produced work.
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Date Feb. 8 2012 2:10:28
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