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britguy

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Resting thumb in tremolo??? 
Trying to improve my tremolo accuracy, particularly on the 2nd 3rd and 4th strings.

I am told that 'resting' the thumb on the next string will improve accuacy, but I find this very restricting to the flow of the tremolo notes, and very difficult to do as it sem to create a lot of tension in the right hand?

Any ideas on whether the thumb should 'rest' on the next string or not. What is the generally accepted technique, thumb rest or thumb free?

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 14 2011 13:54:53
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RE: Resting thumb in tremolo??? (in reply to britguy) 
for me thumb resting.
fingers staccato attack.
slowly build up speed.
over months
the tension you describe will begin to feel more like control and accuracy.

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Elie

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RE: Resting thumb in tremolo??? (in reply to britguy) 
we share the same suffering
if I play tremelo without resting I usually sound faster and more musical
while playing resting the thumb limit my movement and the speed as well and cause tension.
therefore I usually mix them both I play the high basses (6th,5th,4th) with resting and the rest without resting

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El Kiko

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RE: Resting thumb in tremolo??? (in reply to britguy) 
Ah my old enemy ........tremolo.....

I do try very hard to rest stroke the thumb if possible , this also depends on the bass line , if the strings are adjacent or not , if they are, then good I will (try ) rest stroke but sometimes they are not so the thumb will jump to the next string to be played.
Things that I think help me , I now start with the tremolo then the thumb
iamiP...iamiP...iamiP...etc , this I think helps the sound ( as oppose to Piami)
I now try to make the first thumb stroke a bit heavier than the other two .
thinking of a tremolo in 3/4 i would have iamiP....iamiP....iamiP,etc if you know what I mean , In order to make the first P stronger I bring the thumb out and hit in in on the bass string a bit harder than the others, the next 2 P's just rest stroke across.
I suppose a vid would be in order here as trying to describe what happens in words is a bit cumbersome
I do a lot of experimentation with guitar height and angle of neck and hand , finger positions , to find the best one for me ,,
This is the hard part finding what is best for yourself , finger angle and hand position are very important it seems. also how close you play to the bridge changes things quite a bit .
I totally simpathize with your tremolo problem I have been messing with mine for a long time , maybe I'm not the best one to give advice for that reason.

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rombsix

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RE: Resting thumb in tremolo??? (in reply to britguy) 
quote:

Any ideas on whether the thumb should 'rest' on the next string or not. What is the generally accepted technique, thumb rest or thumb free?


http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=170821&appid=&p=&mpage=1&key=tremolo&tmode=&smode=&s=#170828

Check out this WHOLE thread.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 14 2011 16:26:42
 
Paul Magnussen

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RE: Resting thumb in tremolo??? (in reply to britguy) 
You have to be able to do it both ways: as someone else said, it’s not possible to rest when the strings aren’t adjacent — or when the bass string is adjacent to the tremolo string (because you don’t want to stop the tremolo from ringing).

Watch videos of Paco Peña on YouTube — he has a very good even tremolo.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 14 2011 16:46:10
 
BarkellWH

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RE: Resting thumb in tremolo??? (in reply to britguy) 
Whether or not you rest your thumb (and I tend to think it does not help) while performing tremolo, do use a strong thumb stroke, as a strong thumb stroke leads to a strong iami. I know there are differing opinions on this, but in my opinion, that means using the sequence Piami, as your strong thumb stroke will have more effect on the iami at the beginning than at the end of the sequence.

Cheers,

Bill

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 14 2011 19:37:07
 
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RE: Resting thumb in tremolo??? (in reply to BarkellWH) 
quote:

ORIGINAL: BarkellWH

Whether or not you rest your thumb (and I tend to think it does not help) while performing tremolo, do use a strong thumb stroke, as a strong thumb stroke leads to a strong iami. I know there are differing opinions on this, but in my opinion, that means using the sequence Piami, as your strong thumb stroke will have more effect on the iami at the beginning than at the end of the sequence.

Cheers,

Bill


I agree with this. I don't rest the thumb but I also have the most ridiculous looking thumb tremolo motion of anyone I imagine (I bend at the joint closest to the tip of the thumb to help sound the note)
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 14 2011 21:26:34
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