hello hope you can solve an argument that i had with a friend

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p00nani

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Joined: Dec. 12 2009

hello hope you can solve an argument...

i had an argument with a friend about tresilius and what it is,
i play tresilius in a couple of ways one is p,ma,p and the other is a,i,i and the other is
p,e,i now i know that it is a resguados and tresilius is just a type of notation
or just mean that there is three note's per beat .

he say's that tresilius is a type of technic that is p,e,i and the others are not tresilius but just resguado's.
now i know it is a childish argument but he really tried to convince me that
tresilius is the technic of p,e,i while i tried to explain him that tresilius means
three notes per beat and there are couple of ways to play it .

thank for all the replies
best regards.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 25 2011 7:52:27

Elie

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RE: hello hope you can solve an argu... (in reply to p00nani)

I guess all techniques you mentioned are triplets rasgueados
your friend is probably wrong

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he say's that tresilius is a type of technic that is p,e,i and the others are not tresilius but just resguado's.

abanico is a triplet rasgueado and it's could be done by p,ma,p

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 25 2011 8:53:35

p00nani

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RE: hello hope you can solve an argu... (in reply to p00nani)

thank you that is what i meant tresilius is like triplet and in my lenguege triola.

and by the way congrats on the winning man .

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 25 2011 9:16:32

Ricardo

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RE: hello hope you can solve an argu... (in reply to p00nani)

quote:

he say's that tresilius is a type of technic that is p,e,i and the others are not tresilius but just resguado's.

Terminology can be frustrating to argue over as there can be different meanings in context. TRESILLOS are triplet rasgueados as the term is used for flamenco guitar playing technique, versus the basic musical meaning of "triplets". Likewise "arpegio" is a right hand technique of guitar players, where as for other musicians an arpegio is simply a broken chord.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 25 2011 12:18:34

Elie

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RE: hello hope you can solve an argu... (in reply to p00nani)

quote:

and by the way congrats on the winning man .

thank you buddy, much appreciated

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 25 2011 16:43:52

at_leo_87

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From: Boston, MA, U.S.A

RE: hello hope you can solve an argu... (in reply to p00nani)

from what i understand, tresillos are triplets. doesn't matter whether it's a,i,i, or i,m,i or p,a,p.

abanico means fan. so it's any of the rasgueados that looks like you're waving a fan. and it could be sixteenths like, p,a,m,i or p,a,p but grouped in fours. or triplets or any other rhythm.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 25 2011 16:57:43