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rogeliocan

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Paco touching his guitar

I've noticed a while back (and wondered) that Paco DL often touches the base of the neck of his guitar with his right hand before playing.
I wonder if anybody knows what he's got there. I thought it was some Saint's ornament of somekind that he touches for good luck out of superstition.... Like St-Jude or something. I don't know the Saints much but there are a bunch for different things.

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Florian

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RE: Paco touching his guitar (in reply to rogeliocan)

lol he has Vaseline for fingers...makes your fingers slippery ...makes playing smoother and picado faster.....also kills your strings very fast

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rogeliocan

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RE: Paco touching his guitar (in reply to Florian)

Is that what it is!!! I thought of it because I had read someone suggesting that. People actually do that!!! wow, in my case, it's not friction that slows me down, it's just being slow. :(

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Florian

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RE: Paco touching his guitar (in reply to rogeliocan)

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People actually do that!!!

people who don't mind changing their strings every 3 - 5 days...

id love to play with slippery fingers but i cant afford new strings every 3 days or have the energy to always change them

btw..i made you a video of that silencio from the glossary thread

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Elie

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RE: Paco touching his guitar (in reply to rogeliocan)

http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=156697&p=1&tmode=1&smode=1

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James Ashley Mayer

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RE: Paco touching his guitar (in reply to rogeliocan)

When I was living in Sevilla, my teacher showed me that trick. A little dab of vaseline on the fingers. I've never felt the need to try it.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 24 2011 19:27:42

Harry

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RE: Paco touching his guitar (in reply to rogeliocan)

Between the vaseline and the touching the innuendo is getting too much here...

Seriously though I always thought there would be damage to the finish of the guitar no?

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Florian

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RE: Paco touching his guitar (in reply to Harry)

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Between the vaseline and the touching the innuendo is getting too much here...

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estebanana

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RE: Paco touching his guitar (in reply to rogeliocan)

there's good touching and bad touching

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rogeliocan

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RE: Paco touching his guitar (in reply to Florian)

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btw..i made you a video of that silencio from the glossary thread

Hey thank you very much, I will go look for it. Really nice of you.

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Florian

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RE: Paco touching his guitar (in reply to estebanana)

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and bad touching

why

is it cause of the blindness thing ?

np rogeliocan...good excuse to use my new cam

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rogeliocan

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RE: Paco touching his guitar (in reply to Harry)

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Between the vaseline and the touching the innuendo is getting too much here...

LOL good one.

That is so funny, now I read the thread's title and yeah.... sounds like he could get arrested for that.

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Adam

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RE: Paco touching his guitar (in reply to rogeliocan)

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ORIGINAL: rogeliocan

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Between the vaseline and the touching the innuendo is getting too much here...

LOL good one.

That is so funny, now I read the thread's title and yeah.... sounds like he could get arrested for that.

Well how old is his guitar?

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estebanana

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RE: Paco touching his guitar (in reply to rogeliocan)

Yeah Paco might be guilty of statutory picado and thumbing.

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bursche

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RE: Paco touching his guitar (in reply to Adam)

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Well how old is his guitar?

I think he takes a young Conde out for concerts.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 25 2011 14:56:27

veet

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RE: Paco touching his guitar (in reply to rogeliocan)

I saw Santiago Lara in concert last year in Jerez do the same thing.

I started doing it - It works wonders for me, my fingers often get kind of damp and catch on the strings. This prevents.

As for vaseline killing strings, not in my experience. It's chemically inert.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 25 2011 21:13:31

a_arnold

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RE: Paco touching his guitar (in reply to veet)

My fingers sometimes have a different feel to them: too dry or sticky -- this never happens at home during normal practice when I can wash my hands -- it usually happens at a gig after carrying a bunch of stuff (gig amp, guitar case) in from the car and setting up. Really puts me off stride when I start playing. Maybe it's starch coming off the cloth cover of the amp or something. Goo from the venue doorknob. Whatever.

A little vaseline (very little) returns my fingers to a consistent, reliable feel.

And no, it doesn't interact with the guitar's finish. Different solvent base.

I have no evidence, but I, like Florian, feel like it does cause the strings to die a bit earlier, which is why I only use it when I have to, but I always keep a bit on the guitar for emergencies. I'd rather waste a set of strings than play badly in front of an audience.

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GuitarVlog

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RE: Paco touching his guitar (in reply to rogeliocan)

When I attended a classical guitar masterclass with Scott Tennant, I also noticed that he had a dab of Vaseline on the upper bout of his guitar (near the neck).

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a_arnold

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RE: Paco touching his guitar (in reply to davidheis_24)

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vaseline would definetly eat away at french polish cause its made from petroleum

Nope. All my guitars are french polish. No effect at all. A friend of mine spent $15k on a classical Walter and uses vaseline. No problems. I leave a dab tucked into the joint between neck and upper bout for months at a time, and usually replace it with fresh when I notice it beginning to get a bit less fluid.

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a_arnold

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RE: Paco touching his guitar (in reply to GuitarVlog)

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attended a classical guitar masterclass with Scott Tennant, I also noticed that he had a dab of Vaseline

I doubt he used a guitar that didn't have a French polish. And I doubt he would use vaseline if it hurt his guitar's finish.

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GuitarVlog

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RE: Paco touching his guitar (in reply to a_arnold)

Tennant's guitar did have French polish (it was a Kenny Hill Signature) and I was surprised that he had Vaseline (or some other lubricant) on it. But then, Scott Tennant can probably afford the refinish work on any of his guitars whenever he wants it.

For players like myself, I would never dream of putting Vaseline on a guitar that had a French Polish finish ... assuming that I even got to the point of buying such a guitar.

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avimuno

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RE: Paco touching his guitar (in reply to rogeliocan)

Seems like Vicente does it to his Reyes too

My teacher also told me to try it... it works wonders but it requires a very precise technique. It actually got me to improve my less than impressive technique quite a bit. I have used it on both a French polish guitar and a normal lacquer one... no damage so far.
And in my experience, I agree with Florian... kills strings very quickly!