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Anders Eliasson
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RE: Saddle and nut help (in reply to Ricardo)
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As a player, I finally got around to measuring a bunch of guitars and disovered that there are 3 spots on the guitar to measure for action and they all are sort of balancing out in different ways to make the guitar play how I want. The one measure that is the same for all cases seemed to be the nut. In other words on a guitar that had a lower or higher than the norm nut, there was a noticeable problem....without capo. As for the rest, I realized I allowed for quite different 12 fret measurements so long as the bridge height was comfy. I think neck angle is the thing. That is my conclusion as well, as a player and especially after having several good local players check guitars. They (and me) are not very picky with 12th fret stringheight IF EVERYTHING ELSE IS CORRECT!!!. Everything else consist of nut height, stringheight at the bridge, corrected frets, AND relief. To this we add the most important thing, the feel of the guitar. Most good players are very responsive to that. If the feel aint within the right parameters, then the above doesnt matter. I consider all these action discussions to be completely overrated and some go realy nickpicky with 10th or 20th of a milimeter. And its always about getting it as low as possible. Thats typical bedroom guitarist approach. I have told players that making a slightly higher action would make the guitar sound better and play better and some have tried and agreed that they felt more comfortable with a slightly higher setup). The last 2 10th mm of "possibly" lowering the action is where you loose so much sound and response in the instrument. There is a reason why most classical players prefer 4 - 5 mm setups. Not that it should be applied to flamenco guitars which work under different sound esthetics, but its worth noticing and thinking about.
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Date Nov. 25 2015 7:33:35
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Blondie#2
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RE: Saddle and nut help (in reply to Anders Eliasson)
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ORIGINAL: Anders Eliasson That is my conclusion as well, as a player and especially after having several good local players check guitars. They (and me) are not very picky with 12th fret stringheight IF EVERYTHING ELSE IS CORRECT!!!. Everything else consist of nut height, stringheight at the bridge, corrected frets, AND relief. To this we add the most important thing, the feel of the guitar. Most good players are very responsive to that. If the feel aint within the right parameters, then the above doesnt matter. I consider all these action discussions to be completely overrated and some go realy nickpicky with 10th or 20th of a milimeter. And its always about getting it as low as possible. Thats typical bedroom guitarist approach. I have told players that making a slightly higher action would make the guitar sound better and play better Interesting discussion, I am about to shim two of my guitars at the saddle for this reason as I feel the action is a little too low. I am interested in why you feel the slightly higher action improves the sound? Apart from string buzz/clarity issues, lets assume that isn't an issue, why does raising the action at the saddle by a small amount improve the sound? Also would you mind expanding on what you mean by 'corrected' frets, is this basically level and crowned?
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Date Nov. 25 2015 11:32:48
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