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Doesn't continuous rasgueado always require an upstroke?
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El_Tortuga
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RE: Doesn't continuous rasgueado alw... (in reply to LBrandt)
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ORIGINAL: LBrandt Doesn't continuous rasgueado always require an upstroke of some sort? I was watching this youtube video of someone saying that he was doing a continuous rasgueado, but all that I ever saw him doing was e, a, m, i over and over, and only on downstroke. Every fingering version of rasgueado that I've ever seen has at least one downstroke. Thanks, Louis I think you meant to say "has at least one UPstroke." Here are a few rasgueados to consider: Basic flourish or 16th note: e-a-m-i Basic flourish with thumb: e-a-m-i-p (the thumb does an upstroke OR a downstroke, depending on your preference Continuous 16th or 32nd notes: 1) e-a-m-i e-a-m-i e-a-m-i is played by Juan Serrano, as Paul mentioned. Juan Martín also employs it. A variation that can sound really strong is: i-e-a-m i-e-a-m i-e-a-m 2) a-m-i-i a-m-i-i a-m-i-i with the index finger finishing up, is very common among more modern players who tend to disregard the "dedo pequeño" Quintuplets: Once: e-a-m-i-i or continuous: e-a-m-i-i e-a-m-i-i e-a-m-i-i - this rasgueado is not as popular as it once was. Some guitarists find it difficult to master subdividing beats into 5! Then there are the triplets, but I won't go into those, don't have the time LOL
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Date Feb. 23 2012 19:29:19
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El_Tortuga
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RE: Doesn't continuous rasgueado alw... (in reply to LBrandt)
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ORIGINAL: LBrandt So you're saying that Juan Serrano does continuous rasgueado with only e, a, m, i, e, a, m, i,...downstroke only? Correct, that's what Juan Serrano does, and really well.
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Date Feb. 23 2012 19:37:23
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Ramon Amira
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So you're saying that Juan Serrano does continuous rasgueado with only e, a, m, i, e, a, m, i,...downstroke only? To be precise, Juan Serrano starts his rasgueado with I, and plays his continuous rasgueado IXAMIXAM etc. all down. Ramon
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Date Feb. 24 2012 2:22:28
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Ramon Amira
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RE: Doesn't continuous rasgueado alw... (in reply to LBrandt)
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Thanks for the replies. I understand that most of you are saying that the best rasgueado is done with downstrokes only. My problem is that after i, e, a, m, my fingers can't get back to the sequence fast enough to make the sound continuous. Unless I insert an upstroke somewhere in the sequence, I can't get a continuous sound. What's the answer? Just keep practicing? Louis First of all, there's no such thing as the "best" rasgueado. You use different rasgueados for different desired effects. Also, it's a matter of preference – some players prefer some, and other players others. But in any case you don't play just one rasgueado – you play lots of different ones. However, Juan Serrano only plays that one, no matter where or what. As for your not being able to get a continuous sound, I get the feeling you tried a little and that was it. It doesn't work that way. To perfect any technique takes a lot of determined practice. It takes a long time to develop the all down continuous rasgueado. Here's a hint – if you're starting with X, strike with X, then with A, then with M. Then – before you strike with I bring X,A, and M quickly back up into playing position. THEN play with I. Now X is ready to strike after I completes its stroke. BUT – you have to practice this very slowly over a very long period of time. And you have to use a metronome - one stroke per click. If the strokes aren't spaced dead even it will sound ragged and dreadful. Ramon
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Date Feb. 24 2012 2:34:42
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Ramon Amira
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Say you have a 4 stroke continuous rasgueado...eg a,m,i (down) then i (up) Then don't count 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 but count in your head or use your foot to count in 3/4 time 1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3 etc Yes. I also teach a variation of this, but with the same general idea. You count to ten, and then start over again with one, and keep counting to ten. Develops great independence of fingers. When you get to seven, say "sev," because it's the only number with two syllables, and when the tempo starts to pick up you want to keep it brief. But either way serves the same general purpose. Ramon
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Date Feb. 24 2012 19:53:43
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