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How fast is your picado?
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[Poll]
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How fast is your picado?
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80 - 90 bpm |
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90 - 100 bpm |
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100 - 110 bpm |
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110 - 120 bpm |
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120 - 130 bpm |
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130 - 140 bpm |
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140 - 150 bpm |
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150 - 160 bpm |
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160 - 170 bpm |
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170 - 180 bpm |
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180 - 190 bpm |
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190 - 200 bpm |
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More than 200 bpm |
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Total Votes : 49
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(last vote on : Mar. 29 2016 18:49:00)
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rombsix
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From: Beirut, Lebanon
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How fast is your picado?
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I'm not trying to start a fight here or anything, but I just thought it would be interesting to find out how fast some of you guys and gals are playing sixteenths via picado. I was under the impression that 150 beats-per-minute (bpm) is relatively slow-to-average, but from the comments I got on the "My Picado" thread, I was surprised that some of the people I consider semi-pros or pros had speeds around that value. I KNOW that having fast picado doesn't mean anything, and that you can be the greatest flamenco guitarist in the world just by aire, compas, and accompaniment, but please, keep that thinking aside, and humor me here. Gracias a todos! PS: This poll refers to two-finger picado, and NOT three or more fingers (or other techniques like picking, using the index finger to simulate a pick, rasgueado on one string, flickado, etc.). Two-finger picado in any combination is fine (i-m, i-a, m-a, etc.). PPS: I am referring to the speed you can CRUISE at, and NOT the speed you can do for only short bursts. I am talking about you being able to play at this speed relatively comfortably for at least a minute.
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Date Feb. 27 2011 11:52:18
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rombsix
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From: Beirut, Lebanon
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RE: How fast is your picado? (in reply to Grisha)
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Here is the test. Chromatic scale from the low E on the 6th string to the high E on the 12 fret of the 1st string and back. How many can you do in a minute continuously without stopping? Could you post a tab or a video of HOW you would go from the open low E to the 12th fret of the high E and back? I mean, do you play the chromatic scale all in the first position until the G# on the high E string, then go to frets 5, 6, 7, 8 (second position) on the high E string, then to frets 9, 10, 11, 12 (third position) on the high E string, then just reverse that? Or would you go in some way diagonally across the fret board?
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Date Feb. 27 2011 17:45:36
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gato
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RE: How fast is your picado? (in reply to rombsix)
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I Usually use more fingers to go faster, less to go slower, and in combinations of 1, 2, 3, or 4's to articulate the syncopation so that I am not playing fewer or extra notes than needed, so I don't really think of it in this way. And by the way, slower, or medium speed with articulation is much harder to do well than blow quick riffs of single notes, say multiple note and or differing articulations with rests and differing note lengths with accents, to be more melodic or harmonic. It's all about phrasing, and that's just me. Gary
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Date Feb. 28 2011 9:10:47
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rombsix
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From: Beirut, Lebanon
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RE: How fast is your picado? (in reply to paul.troutfisher)
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Guessing across :( Yeah, definitely. Not just playing the same note over and over on one string. Rather, playing the E phrygian scale for example. About the exercise: I don't have a score, but if you download the video and slow it down, it should be easy to pick up. The notes initially go like this: A, G, A, G, F, G, A, G, F, E, F, G, A, G, F, E (all on the first string so far), D, E, F, G, A, G, F, E, D, C, D, E, F, G, A, G, F, E, D, C, B (D, C, and B on the second string), etc. until you end the exercise like this (these being the final series of notes) E, F, G (6th string), A, B, C (5th string), D, E, F (4th string), E, D, C, B, A, G, F, E, F, G, A, B, C, D, E, D, C, B, A, G, F, E, F, G, A, B, C, D, C, B, A, G, F, E, F, G, A, B, etc. until you end on G, F, E (6th string). Does this help?
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Date Feb. 28 2011 21:49:12
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