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Ramón

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Anyone seen this style rosette for sale? 
Just ran across this Reyes rosette.

Lika' Lika'....(as the say in S. Africa)

Seems like I've seen something like it, but cannot 're-find', so any rosette webpages or leads would be appreicated!

Thanks



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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 6 2007 2:29:34
 
Georg

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RE: Anyone seen this style rosette f... (in reply to Ramón) 
This woman makes custon made rosettes without extracharge. The only condition is that you have to buy a whole block.

http://www.karin-rost.com/eng/index2.htm
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AndrewE

 

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RE: Anyone seen this style rosette f... (in reply to Ramón) 
Hi Ramon,

Checking a place here in Australia that say they do custom rosettes, let you know the story when they get back to me.

It's a great rosette.

Where did you get this Reyes picture from and other pic of the reyes?

Andrew
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TANúñez

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RE: Anyone seen this style rosette f... (in reply to Ramón) 
Ramón, why not just attempt to make it. Give it a shot.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 8 2007 14:14:44
 
Ramón

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RE: Anyone seen this style rosette f... (in reply to Ramón) 
The guy in Russia will also make anything I want....But again, the WHOLE block.... I might look into it.

Make my own? A superior luthier was talking to my friend about building his first few guitars, and the luthier said;

"Are you making your own rosettes"?

"No", my friend said.

"Good", he said. "Spend your time learning to build. Buy the rosettes for now, and get good at building - first".

I'd rather spend the hours and the tedium to building the instrument, but probably later - if I really start building - learn to build the rosette.

This isn't where I got the pic...Can't find it again when googled, but here is another link with the same rosette.

http://www.classicguitar.com/f-89Reyes.html

Anyone finds more info. let me know!! Thanks all...
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 8 2007 16:51:00
 
Ramón

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RE: Anyone seen this style rosette f... (in reply to Ramón) 
PS...

I once TRIED to build a rosette...Damn......Talk about your exercise in futility!

There's 'stuff' on building them, but I've never seen anything really dedicated to HOW to do it. Do you build a jig to hold the little buggers? My pieces were just ALL over the place, and I finally gave it the Big Ef' It (lol) and walked away and started to PLAY a guitar, instead!

Found this...STILL looks daunting, and if I look at that Reyes rosette, I can begin to tell where the tiles are 'cut' to match the next set.... Just looks daunting!

http://www.connorguitars.com/links_tips/rosettes.html
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 8 2007 17:01:57

JBASHORUN

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RE: Anyone seen this style rosette f... (in reply to Ramón) 
IMO rosette making is an art in itself. I know how its done, and its perfectly do-able, but when you consider the time and effort involved, is it really worth making one when you can buy a reasonable one for just a few dollars? I would only MAKE one if I was blessed with time, and wanted something very specific.

On a side note, one of the nicest rosettes I've ever seen was the chip-carved one by Elliott



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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 9 2007 0:21:12
 
Ramón

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RE: Anyone seen this style rosette f... (in reply to Ramón) 
Yea...Saw that one when finished. Truly beautiful, and hard work, but I would think a touch simpler (but maybe not!) than all that stacking of those little pieces of firewood kindling you see in a regular rosette!

But for 'my look', I just like a traditional type rosette. The luthier's house I work at does his own - gorgeous - but I just seem to lean for the traditional style.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 9 2007 1:20:57
 
TANúñez

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RE: Anyone seen this style rosette f... (in reply to Ramón) 
Ramón, why not try this rosette. A real eyecatcher.



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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 10 2007 3:19:20
 
Ramón

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RE: Anyone seen this style rosette f... (in reply to Ramón) 
If an electric train is running west at 60mph, and the wind is from the west at 60mph, which way does the smoke go???

Hey...Second Thought: Hypnotize them!! YOU 'VILL TIP THE GUITARIST ONLY $100 BILLS!

Gracias, Tomas'!..
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 10 2007 14:33:15
 
TANúñez

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RE: Anyone seen this style rosette f... (in reply to Ramón) 
quote:

If an electric train is running west at 60mph, and the wind is from the west at 60mph, which way does the smoke go???


If an electric train can do 60mph, that's one hell of an electric train.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 10 2007 16:46:32
 
Ramón

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RE: Anyone seen this style rosette f... (in reply to Ramón) 
How fast is very fast?

The fastest trains in commercial operation today are the French train à grande vitesse (TGV), the Japanese shinkansen (or bullet train) and the German InterCity Express (ICE). The TGV routinely travels at 300 kilometres per hour through the French countryside and has been clocked at 515 kilometres per hour in test runs. The bullet train averages 262 kilometres per hour between stations and has recorded 443 kilometres per hour in test runs, while the ICE has a top operational speed of 280 kilometres per hour and has recorded 408 kilometres per hour in trials.

These trains have several things in common:

* They all use electric motors (some very fast trains still run on diesel, but these are slower than their electric counterparts).


Weren't we talking about my rosette!???
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 11 2007 17:27:23
 
TANúñez

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RE: Anyone seen this style rosette f... (in reply to Ramón) 
Ramón, are you some sort of Trainologist?

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 12 2007 14:26:55
 
HemeolaMan

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RE: Anyone seen this style rosette f... (in reply to Ramón) 
ya know, diesels, or rather electrodiesel locomotives in the united states have 2 gigantamunda (i believe that's a spanish word) v12 diesel engines that supply the electricity that runs the motor that moves the train. so i guess you could say that they are only partly diesel, and mostly electric. though probably not capable of hauling as much ass.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 15 2007 6:28:02
 
HemeolaMan

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RE: Anyone seen this style rosette f... (in reply to Ramón) 
i lik rozetttttz

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 15 2007 6:30:48
 
Armando

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RE: Anyone seen this style rosette f... (in reply to Ramón) 
Yeah, that's a Reyes Rosette

Don't think they are produced in series, but you may order them custom made from karin-rost.com
It will not be cheap and you will have to buy a whole patch.

regards

Armando

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 15 2007 19:40:37
 
Pimientito

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RE: Anyone seen this style rosette f... (in reply to Ramón) 
Hey Ramon, I just looked at the build your own rosette guide you posted. (in 27 simple stages) I was thinking "Forget that". Heart surgey looks easier!
I had a Gerundino some years ago with this rose motif that i liked and never saw again



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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 18 2007 10:18:31
 
Jim Opfer

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RE: Anyone seen this style rosette f... (in reply to Pimientito) 
What year was your Gerundino? I have one with the same rosette.
Spooky! It's very unusual and might be the same guitar.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 18 2007 15:28:26
 
jshelton5040

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RE: Anyone seen this style rosette f... (in reply to Pimientito) 
The Gerundino rosette or one very similar is a commercial one that is readily available from some vendors in Spain. I like it and have used it several times.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 18 2007 15:48:54
 
Pimientito

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RE: Anyone seen this style rosette f... (in reply to Jim Opfer) 
Its a 1998 Gerundino that i sold last year to a dealer. Would be surprised if you you bought it! here is the label



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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 18 2007 16:02:27
 
nhills

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RE: Anyone seen this style rosette f... (in reply to Ramón) 
Actually, making rosettes is not all that hard. If you decide to, here's everything you need to know. I've simulated the outer herringbone.
Norman



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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 18 2007 16:36:53
 
jshelton5040

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RE: Anyone seen this style rosette f... (in reply to nhills) 
That's all well and good but by the time you taper the edges of that log to make it fit in a circle you'll loose part of the pattern. It's a little bit more complicated than designing a rectangular log.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 18 2007 23:42:00
 
nhills

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RE: Anyone seen this style rosette f... (in reply to jshelton5040) 
The intent is that the taper is distributed over all columns - the number gven is for the total. This way there's no problem.

Norman

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 18 2007 23:48:09
 
Raimundo

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RE: Anyone seen this style rosette f... (in reply to Ramón) 
hi Ramón
you can try lmii Wood, Supplies & Tools for the Guitar Builder

http://www.lmii.com/Default.asp

I'm sure you will find it there
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 19 2007 8:09:34
 
Jim Opfer

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RE: Anyone seen this style rosette f... (in reply to Pimientito) 
quote:

Its a 1998 Gerundino that i sold last year to a dealer. Would be surprised if you you bought it! here is the label


Hi Pimientito.
Surprise, surprise, here she is;



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Jim Opfer

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 19 2007 12:13:57
 
Ramón

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RE: Anyone seen this style rosette f... (in reply to Ramón) 
Thanks everyone;

1. LMI doesn't have it. I buy most of my stuff from them, so I knew right away.

2. I have the program to design the rosette (thank you, Norman, and for your work here!) - now can you whip up one that MAKES the rosette?

Seriously - I tried - once - and had little 'kindling' all over the place until I said F-it. WAY too hard, IMHO, which is why I think - for that type of traditional rosette - it's kind of a speciality. I think many of Spain's builders use someone to make, yes?

I looked into a "custom block". Like $1500 USD by the time I get it here...

Hey... Anyone want a beautiful rosette like mine? $100 each?? What? Hello?? (silence......)

Actually, if I got enough people here that wanted one, I could get it down to 'reasonable', probably, but I'd have to sell like 40-50, and it'd take forever to recoup the investment....

What if I just took a piece of spruce, cut a ring, a used permanent ink pens and made little bitty' dots???
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 19 2007 15:06:22
 
jshelton5040

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RE: Anyone seen this style rosette f... (in reply to Ramón) 
quote:

ORIGINAL: Ramón

Thanks everyone;

1. LMI doesn't have it. I buy most of my stuff from them, so I knew right away.


Here you go. Lower left hand corner #227
http://www.maderasbarber.com/english/frameen.htm

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 20 2007 0:13:37
 
Ramón

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RE: Anyone seen this style rosette f... (in reply to Ramón) 
Hi John,

Thanks, but that's the Gerundino everyone is putting a pic up of, not the Reyes at the top of the page. Nice to have another bookmark, though.

(Man...! Ya'd gotten me all excited, too!!)

R



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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 20 2007 1:50:12
 
Ramón

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RE: Anyone seen this style rosette f... (in reply to Ramón) 
I've actually gone and placed an ad in Spain to try to find a few! lol
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