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Escribano
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RE: Free Accurate Transcriptions - c... (in reply to Guest)
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Hi Abdullah and welcome to the forum. Can you confirm that this offer is not in breach of our Forum Agreement quote:
4. Upload, or otherwise make available, files that contain images, photographs, software or other material protected by (i) intellectual property laws, including, by way of example, and not as limitation, copyright or trademark laws or (ii) by rights of privacy or publicity, if any unless you own or control the rights thereto or have received all necessary consents to do the same. If you do not have the necessary consent to make these available, I am afraid I will have to withdraw this thread.
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Date Feb. 10 2004 9:34:41
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Billyboy
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RE: Transcriptions (in reply to Florian)
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You have a good point there Florin and Jon, no he had never seen the transcription before, and maybe I was responsable for a Tiff between Riqueni and Faucher that I inadvertantly started ( I showed him it to see if it was accurate), and this is maybe why he has never done a book of Riquenis material. I met him at the Cordoba festival in 95, I always regreted not going on his course, it was nearly empty, and I would have had almost one to one tuition, the whole course I was on was terrible and the heat at the time was unbearable, topping all that I got a nasty illness, and after only a few days had to come back home, so it is a time I would sooner forget. Cheers Dave
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Date Feb. 10 2004 16:14:03
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Jon Boyes
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RE: Free Accurate Transcriptions (Pd... (in reply to Billyboy)
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ORIGINAL: Billyboy Ah but I heard that if the transcriber makes an alteration then the transcription is not a copy of someone else's piece but an interpretation, Then you heard wrong, otherwise all I would have to do is change one note in each one of Faucher's transcriptions, photocopy the book and sell it myself, and be within the law. This would make copyright law a complete farce and no artists would be able to securely protect their rights to anything. A transcription, or a cover version of someone else's song to use my other example, is always going to be an interpretation to some extent, that is unavoidable. The key concept in the law is whether *a substantial part of the original work has been copied*. Of course, cases *do* go to court to determine exactly this point, particularly in modern dance music, for example, that uses samples. For a transcription to meet this citeria - be merely an interpretation - it would have to be so significantly altered from the original that it would be a useless transcription for anyone hoping to learn the original, thus defeating the object. As a point of interest, "substantial" in copyright law does not necessaily relate to quantity. Jon
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Date Feb. 10 2004 17:36:30
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Jon Boyes
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RE: Transcriptions (in reply to Florian)
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ORIGINAL: Florian I am sure Faucher is a very nice man, but so is Abdullah, he comes from 3rd world country where and even if he did want to pay for the transcriptions he couldnt, does that mean that he cant play flamenco ? Not at at all. But does coming from a third world country give him the right to put one of flamenco's best transcribers out of business? Frankly, I don't care where Abdullah gets his music from, and I don't know why we ended up arguing morality. I'm saying that its bad for flamenco if scans (actual copies) of all Faucher's stuff is posted on the web for anyone to download. Why, seriously, would anyone go and buy it? When Tomatito/Moriato/PDL/whoever brings out his next album, and you are looking for the best quality transcriptions on the market, what are you going to do if Faucher has taken up gardening because some dimwit posted all his work on the web? Jon BTW, Fauchers collections, as opposed to individual transcriptions, *are* good value for money. I had the Moraito one for Christmas which cost about £25.
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Date Feb. 10 2004 17:56:53
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Escribano
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From: England, living in Italy
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RE: Transcriptions (in reply to Florian)
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I say go for it Abdullah you live in Kuwait where theres no teachers, no flamenco, no money its your responsabillity to yourself to get it anyway you can. I believe you are doing Abdullah and Kuwait a disservice, no money, no teachers? Not sure about flamenco Anyway, as I am not in the mood to resolve a "grey" area on behalf of anyone at the present time, please contact Abdullah directly if you are interested. We won't be knowingly hosting copyright materials on this site. In my book, copyright in a publication is vested in the author i.e. the design, font, text the lot. Whether or not the actual content is in dispute i.e. permission from the guitarist.
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Date Feb. 10 2004 18:16:04
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