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Haithamflamenco

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From: Bahrain

building flamenco guitar for dummies

hi guys,

i am realy intersted in building flamneco guitars,

i would like to know the basics,

how the flamenco guitar build, the process,the stpes?!?!!

haitham

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 19 2007 20:17:46

JBASHORUN

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RE: building flamenco guitar for dummies (in reply to Haithamflamenco)

There are 2 great books you should consider reading:

One is Roy Cortnall's "Making Master Guitars":

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/0709048092?tag=roycourtnalsu-21&camp=1406&creative=6394&linkCode=as1&creativeASIN=0709048092&adid=1K7Y6QZEH6TJSN59KCFB&

and the other is Will Cumpiano's book:

http://www.cumpiano.com/Home/Book/textbook.html

If you don't want to buy them, try renting them from a library.

Also do a Google search, and you will find LOTS of info.

Lastly, check out Ramon's series of posts in the Luthiery section entitled: "Building A Flamenco Guitar"... they would be a good place to start:

http://www.foroflamenco.com/Building_a_Flamenco_Guitar_-_Part_2/m_36398/p_3/tmode_1/smode_1/tm.htm

Jb

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 19 2007 20:46:22

r0bbie

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Joined: Feb. 11 2007
From: Holland

RE: building flamenco guitar for dummies (in reply to Haithamflamenco)

Hi,

I do have both books JB sugested and I think they are both well written and you can build good guitars folowing the plans provided. But they are not specific about flamenco guitars. I think there is still a lot of info missing on how to build a "real" flamenco.

The neck angle in the book from Courtnall is the same for all 8 guitar plans he provided. All bridge's have almost the same height and there is no plan for a peghead for instance.

But I think the book written by Courtnall is the better of the two because Cumpiano has his "own" methode of building a guitar. No domed top the way most luthers would do, no neck angle and a flat gluing surface of the fingerboard to name a few.

But the book by Cumpiano is very clear, he warns you for the mistakes before you make them, lots of drawings and pictures so if you never did anything that has to do with tools I'd say go for Cumpiano, if you play with some steel and some wood and end up with a working radio, go for Courtnall and figure out what makes a flamenco a flamenco.

Rob.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 19 2007 21:48:18

Anders Eliasson

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RE: building flamenco guitar for dummies (in reply to Haithamflamenco)

Haitham

You could start reading back in this section of this forum. You´ll find a lot of flamenco guitar related tricks and tips.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 20 2007 11:02:35

Haithamflamenco

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RE: building flamenco guitar for dummies (in reply to Haithamflamenco)

quote:

Haitham

You could start reading back in this section of this forum. You´ll find a lot of flamenco guitar related tricks and tips.

wooow, amazing your guitars,

do u have any mp3 of them, sound clip,

and how dose the guitar painted? the vernish?

haitham

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 20 2007 16:25:06

JBASHORUN

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RE: building flamenco guitar for dummies (in reply to Haithamflamenco)

quote:

do u have any mp3 of them, sound clip,

and how dose the guitar painted? the vernish?

Here's a clip of Ron playing one of Anders' guitars:

www.btinternet.com/~flamenco/ronfandango.mp3

BTW, most of Anders' guitars are French Polished, not varnished.

Jb

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 20 2007 20:05:13

Haithamflamenco

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From: Bahrain

RE: building flamenco guitar for dummies (in reply to Haithamflamenco)

quote:

BTW, most of Anders' guitars are French Polished, not varnished.

Jb

ya but how, by spray?? another method?

haitham

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 20 2007 21:59:26

r0bbie

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From: Holland

RE: building flamenco guitar for dummies (in reply to Haithamflamenco)

french polish IS the method.
Its no spray but you rub it on the guitar, here is a explanation of how to do it: http://milburnguitars.com/frenchpolish.html

No pictures but lots of text

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 20 2007 22:12:28

Haithamflamenco

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RE: building flamenco guitar for dummies (in reply to Haithamflamenco)

lol, one more qustion,

why the color of the balnca (cypress wood) is differnte?

yellow,orange,red ?

thanks

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 21 2007 12:32:25

JBASHORUN

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RE: building flamenco guitar for dummies (in reply to Haithamflamenco)

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why the color of the balnca (cypress wood) is differnte?

yellow,orange,red ?

Cypress wood is generally a beige/off-white colour in its raw state. there are some subtle variations in shade, but the major differences in tone are applied with the finish. Shellac (for french polishing) is available in various shades from virtually clear to quite dark. You can sometimes change the colour by adding pigments or stain. But the final colour is, within reason, a cosmetic decision.

Jb

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 21 2007 13:31:30

JBASHORUN

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RE: building flamenco guitar for dummies (in reply to Haithamflamenco)

check out these youtube vids too:

Jb

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 23 2007 22:36:31

Raimundo

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From: Australia

RE: building flamenco guitar for dummies (in reply to Haithamflamenco)

hi friend
you are from my contry
you can find the basic of builing guitar in the following link

http://www.lmii.com/CartTwo/DaveKit/dave/LMIKitBuild.htm

its free so injoy it