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rafapak

 

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what money this guitar could be worth ? 

hi

can you guys tell me what you think what money this instrument could be worth ? i am inexperienced therefore i cant say at what level of quality this instrument could be .

  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 1 2023 21:10:07
 
Stu

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RE: what money this guitar could be ... (in reply to rafapak

😒

Title of video is ad. 1 subscriber? 8 views. No tags. How dya find this video?

Anyway, ask the dude what guitar it is. Pm him and ask him how much it's worth.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 1 2023 22:47:53
 
RobF

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RE: what money this guitar could be ... (in reply to rafapak

I like the sound of that guitar and the guy looks a bit like Dr. Evil, so I’m going to guess one million dollars. If he sticks his pinky finger in his mouth when he tells you the price then for sure it indeed is Dr. Evil, in which case offer to trade him a couple of hungry sharks for it. He keeps them as pets. Just don’t stand on any trap doors when you do the deal and you’ll probably be OK.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 1 2023 23:17:20
 
Ricardo

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RE: what money this guitar could be ... (in reply to rafapak

What is the name of the maker? Check those prices online. Simple.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 2 2023 2:57:27
 
AndresK

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RE: what money this guitar could be ... (in reply to RobF

Dear Lord, I laughed so much in the morning that I almost woke my son an hour earlier than he had to go to school.

If you need a cheaper guitar, which I totally understand, go for an Alhambra 2f. You cannot go wrong there. I will try to find a video of it Carlos Piñana sent me some years ago.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 2 2023 6:22:57
 
silddx

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RE: what money this guitar could be ... (in reply to rafapak

Raf, how are your lessons going?
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 2 2023 6:31:30
 
AndresK

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RE: what money this guitar could be ... (in reply to rafapak

Here it is: (sent to me in 2018)





Carlos Piñana:
Here you have one of my student with 2F guitar Alhambra
This guitar is amazing
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 2 2023 12:40:26
 
JasonM

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RE: what money this guitar could be ... (in reply to AndresK

The value will be considerably less without the Golden certification sticker of excellence on the headstock
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 2 2023 14:54:03
 
Morante

 

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RE: what money this guitar could be ... (in reply to JasonM

All Alhambras are good value for money. Their top luthiers are great: Vilaplana is one of the very best.

Look no further: this is your guitar: https://multisononline.com/guitarras-clasicas/alhambra-jose-maria-vilaplana-serie-nt.html?gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIj_7wjM_XgQMVHItoCR0ioAmNEAQYCCABEgIwPPD_BwE
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 2 2023 15:55:15
 
rafapak

 

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RE: what money this guitar could be ... (in reply to silddx

quote:

Raf, how are your lessons going?


mr Walsh hasn't replied to my message so i think he is busy or changed his mind.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 3 2023 21:43:36
 
rafapak

 

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RE: what money this guitar could be ... (in reply to RobF

quote:

I like the sound of that guitar and the guy looks a bit like Dr. Evil, so I’m going to guess one million dollars. If he sticks his pinky finger in his mouth when he tells you the price then for sure it indeed is Dr. Evil, in which case offer to trade him a couple of hungry sharks for it. He keeps them as pets. Just don’t stand on any trap doors when you do the deal and you’ll probably be OK.


I flew to Sevilla yestarday and I returned today. I visited Mr Andres Dominguez in his workshop and had a chance to play this guitar in the video. Very nice instrument in my opinion but should be bought and played by somebody who has skills not by person like me who has zero skills. I bought cheaper guitar cause I remember people telling me that it is crazy to buy expensive guitar if one can't play and I agree.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 3 2023 21:52:44
 
RobF

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RE: what money this guitar could be ... (in reply to rafapak

I don’t think lacking in experience or skills should prevent someone from buying a guitar they like. You can develop your skills and grow into the instrument. But it sounds like all has ended well, as you’ve bought yourself a guitar! Congratulations!

Out of curiosity, what was he asking for the guitar in the video?
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 3 2023 22:12:20
 
rafapak

 

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RE: what money this guitar could be ... (in reply to RobF

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Out of curiosity, what was he asking for the guitar in the video?


I don't know what are rules here on forum in relation to prices luthiers ask for guitars. I am not street smart person therefore I don't know if telling people price is against luthier business or he wouldn't mind if I tell people price. I don't want to do something stupid so that people think I do something against luthier's will. Do people here on forum share information about prices luthiers ask for guitars or it is frowned upon ?

by the way I forgot to mention that I also visited alvarez and bernal shop.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 3 2023 22:34:06
 
RobF

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RE: what money this guitar could be ... (in reply to rafapak

I think in this case it’s Ok to say. It’s a good sounding guitar and maybe someone here would want to buy it. But don’t do anything you’re not comfortable with as people can search on his name and contact him themselves if they’re interested. It sounds like you had a great visit to Seville, and you came home with a guitar, and that’s what’s most important.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 3 2023 22:50:45
 
rafapak

 

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RE: what money this guitar could be ... (in reply to RobF

i strongly recommend players with skills should check this guitar from video. To me this guitar sounds nice and i believe in the hands of good player this guitar would sound fantastic. I wish i was able to make this guitar 'sing ' but due to lack of skills I unfortunately can't.
Price for this guitar was for me 2500 euro from ąndres dominguez. Maybe for somebody else he will reduce price. I dont know. i know he has slightly cheaper guitar 1700 euros but i didnt play this one.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 3 2023 23:34:05
 
Stu

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RE: what money this guitar could be ... (in reply to RobF

Aw man. I confuse easily.

So the guitar in the first video? Is that you playing? Is that what you bought?

Morantes link is an Alhambra negra? So is he being sarcastic?

Urgh.

Anyway glad you had a successful trip to Seville! Good job.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 3 2023 23:35:53
 
Piwin

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RE: what money this guitar could be ... (in reply to rafapak

Congrats on getting your guitar!

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 3 2023 23:43:07
 
rafapak

 

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RE: what money this guitar could be ... (in reply to AndresK

quote:

Carlos Piñana:
Here you have one of my student with 2F guitar Alhambra
This guitar is amazing


this guy in video is not bad player in my opinion.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 3 2023 23:45:02
 
rafapak

 

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RE: what money this guitar could be ... (in reply to Stu

quote:

Aw man. I confuse easily.

So the guitar in the first video? Is that you playing? Is that what you bought?

Morantes link is an Alhambra negra? So is he being sarcastic?

Urgh.

Anyway glad you had a successful trip to Seville! Good job.


it is not me playing in video. I didnt buy this guitar but i played it yesterday for few moments. I believe it is good instrument for people who have skills.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 3 2023 23:48:16
 
orsonw

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RE: what money this guitar could be ... (in reply to rafapak

quote:

I flew to Sevilla yestarday and I returned today. I visited Mr Andres Dominguez in his workshop and had a chance to play this guitar in the video. Very nice instrument in my opinion but should be bought and played by somebody who has skills not by person like me who has zero skills. I bought cheaper guitar...


Sounds like you had a good visit to Seville. So after all the questions, and travels, please tells us - which guitar have you bought?

Also how was it travelling back on the airplane with the guitar, were you able to carry it on as cabin/hand luggage?
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 4 2023 9:43:38
 
Morante

 

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RE: what money this guitar could be ... (in reply to orsonw

I wonder how much he spent on viajes and how much on guitar???
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 4 2023 16:52:10
 
RobF

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RE: what money this guitar could be ... (in reply to Morante

I think it was money well spent. I mean, he joined the Foro saying he wanted to go to Spain to buy an affordable guitar, asked a ton of questions while researching it, then goes to Spain, meets a maker, visits some shops, and buys an affordable guitar. Have to respect that, dude put his money where his mouth is…
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 4 2023 18:00:22
 
silddx

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RE: what money this guitar could be ... (in reply to RobF

But Raf has not divulged what guitar he bought, for how much, from where, why he chose it, what others he tried, how he got on with the language barrier if there was one, etc. etc. All the stuff we helped him with.

I think he may have given up on lessons since John Walsh didn't reply.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 4 2023 19:46:40
 
Stu

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RE: what money this guitar could be ... (in reply to silddx

Yeah right! 😀 we need more than this! all those fears! Did you hire a translator? Did you have tapas? Were you able to get a train or bus from one part of Spain to another??!
You owe us bro! 😄
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 4 2023 20:15:55
 
silddx

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RE: what money this guitar could be ... (in reply to Stu

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You owe us bro! 😄


I would go further and say we own him, and his new guitar


Just kidding Raf, I truly hope you now have the guitar you really wanted, and can begin your flamenco journey with continued joy and fulfilment.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 4 2023 21:09:52
 
Mark2

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RE: what money this guitar could be ... (in reply to silddx

That would have been the best money he could spend.



quote:

ORIGINAL: silddx


I think he may have given up on lessons since John Walsh didn't reply.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 4 2023 21:47:57
 
Stu

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RE: what money this guitar could be ... (in reply to silddx

quote:

I would go further and say we own him, and his new guitar


  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 4 2023 22:35:04
 
Ricardo

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RE: what money this guitar could be ... (in reply to silddx

quote:

I would go further and say we own him, and his new guitar


In that case, we must demand to know how much we got ripped off for a factory guitar!!!

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 5 2023 17:22:42
 
ernandez R

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RE: what money this guitar could be ... (in reply to rafapak

Well… No trip report? Bet you guys feel cheap being taken for a ride. Oh wait, that’s the saddle thread. Giddy-up!

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 6 2023 3:06:19
 
devilhand

 

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RE: what money this guitar could be ... (in reply to rafapak

quote:

I bought cheaper guitar cause I remember people telling me that it is crazy to buy expensive guitar if one can't play and I agree.

Now buy yourself some hands.

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