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Ricardo

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RE: Elite Guitarist - Flamenco Track (in reply to rombsix

The wrist motion is twisting using a “broken” or bent wrist position: supination downstroke, pronation upstroke. As opposed to sideways wrist motion as in up and down alternate flat picking using a flat wrist position.

EDIT: pronation downstroke, s-UP-inatation UP stroke.... see below.

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kitarist

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RE: Elite Guitarist - Flamenco Track (in reply to Ricardo

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ORIGINAL: Ricardo

The wrist motion is twisting using a “broken” or bent wrist position: supination downstroke, pronation upstroke. As opposed to sideways wrist motion as in up and down alternate flat picking using a flat wrist position.


I think the other way around - supination is upstroke. Can't pour soup into your palm after a downstroke

Good point about the wrist - however the forearm rotation along the long axis is still the same in both straight wrist and wrist at some constant angle relative to forearm, I think.

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Richard Jernigan

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RE: Elite Guitarist - Flamenco Track (in reply to kitarist

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(Pronation: Hold you hand with the palm inward, parallel to your belly.. Rotate the upper arm so the thumb goes closer to your belly. That's pronation, supination is the other way.


My little trick is to think of supination being the one where you rotate your forearm so that one can pour 'soup' in the palm Sort of a homophone-based memory aid.


I should have written “forearm,” not “upper arm.”

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kitarist

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RE: Elite Guitarist - Flamenco Track (in reply to Richard Jernigan

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I should have written “forearm,” not “upper arm.”

RNJ


Ha! I did not even notice; assumed we were both talking about the forearm.

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JasonM

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RE: Elite Guitarist - Flamenco Track (in reply to kitarist

Antonio says at the end of the series that he doesn’t play with the dedos anymore and just uses a pick because it’s so much easier. Oh well
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RE: Elite Guitarist - Flamenco Track (in reply to JasonM

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Antonio says at the end of the series that he doesn’t play with the dedos anymore and just uses a pick because it’s so much easier. Oh well




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Ricardo

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RE: Elite Guitarist - Flamenco Track (in reply to kitarist

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ORIGINAL: kitarist

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricardo

The wrist motion is twisting using a “broken” or bent wrist position: supination downstroke, pronation upstroke. As opposed to sideways wrist motion as in up and down alternate flat picking using a flat wrist position.


I think the other way around - supination is upstroke. Can't pour soup into your palm after a downstroke

Good point about the wrist - however the forearm rotation along the long axis is still the same in both straight wrist and wrist at some constant angle relative to forearm, I think.

Yes I got it backwards because you meant to say supination is to RECEIVE soup in your hand from another person POURING it who was using pronation.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date May 24 2019 16:54:56
 
kitarist

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RE: Elite Guitarist - Flamenco Track (in reply to Ricardo

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ORIGINAL: Ricardo

quote:

ORIGINAL: kitarist

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricardo

The wrist motion is twisting using a “broken” or bent wrist position: supination downstroke, pronation upstroke. As opposed to sideways wrist motion as in up and down alternate flat picking using a flat wrist position.


I think the other way around - supination is upstroke. Can't pour soup into your palm after a downstroke

Good point about the wrist - however the forearm rotation along the long axis is still the same in both straight wrist and wrist at some constant angle relative to forearm, I think.

Yes I got it backwards because you meant to say supination is to RECEIVE soup in your hand from another person POURING it who was using pronation.


Damn, yes. Effing English, when will I get it right..

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