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RE: How can anyone not like rumba? (in reply to Anders Eliasson)
Olé to your violin playing, Anders!
We make a great team, I would say.
I did smile more than normal, yes. I was caught off-guard by a couple of snags (like that first time when you slowed down or paused a bit, and I adjusted my strumming to fit back with your playing), and it made me chuckle because I usually don't upload a video until I get it down solid, but I figured the moment of improvisation and adaptation to the context (and the ensuing grinning on my part) outweighed doing another take of the video to try to make it "perfect".
I didn't notice the glitches in the compas until I started to accompany, but I think the way the video turned out only added charm to the final product.
RE: How can anyone not like rumba? (in reply to rombsix)
Olé!
Good job to both of you. Nicely done!
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RE: How can anyone not like rumba? (in reply to rombsix)
awesome stuff, very very Eastern European melody makes me think of home anders anything you cant do ? great playing-- next ull say you made the violin !
RE: How can anyone not like rumba? (in reply to Anders Eliasson)
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ORIGINAL: Anders Eliasson
Yeah Ramzi. You did right. Mine was a first take as well and I havent played the theme for a long time. I mean its Rumba... party music. Who cares
Great stuff guys!!
I couldn't resist trying to record a couple of palmas tracks to go with this, but struggling a bit with the technology (well, that's my excuse, and I'm sticking to it) and listening back it sounds more like the Yenshui fireworks festival than a rumbas - so I'll post that instead for now (2:48-4:33 intense!! )
RE: How can anyone not like rumba? (in reply to Anders Eliasson)
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And yes, I did make the violin myself. (but not the bow)
I never understood why violin bows cost more than violins anyway...
Back to topic, I'm not great fan of ketchup who are too "pop" for me but definitely thumbs up for Chambao. They just sound so laid back but keep a flamenco aire. I saw them in concert once and they are really amazing live.
RE: How can anyone not like rumba? (in reply to Pimientito)
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I never understood why violin bows cost more than violins anyway...
Back to topic, I'm not great fan of ketchup who are too "pop" for me but definitely thumbs up for Chambao. They just sound so laid back but keep a flamenco aire. I saw them in concert once and they are really amazing live.
This with the ketchups, I understand. The song is just so distinct and diferent. Very poppy I agree but i dont care so much about that and besides, when the song was new it was something that everyone had to hate. Like the Macarena...... woaahhhh Violin bows are expensive, but a good deal cheaper than violins at the same quality level. I dont know how got the other idea.
RE: How can anyone not like rumba? (in reply to rombsix)
For me, below is my version of "how can anyone not like rumba" - I mean it seriously, but of course I understand that we all have different tastes. Anyway, I really dig the spontaneous approach to rumba like this but with familiar verses that many can join in and sing along with. I think they go through 5 or 6 different rumba letras below (from the point I linked), plus a few before hand as they are getting into it.
RE: How can anyone not like rumba? (in reply to rombsix)
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I did smile more than normal, yes. I was caught off-guard by a couple of snags (like that first time when you slowed down or paused a bit,
At those points I really felt that Anders was about to go for the taksim, then decided to carry on! If you guys could actually work that in (go for it, Anders, Ramzi will be there for you), then (imho) the only other element needed to make it perfect is the woman in the purple dress from the Peret video.
RE: How can anyone not like rumba? (in reply to Estevan)
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At those points I really felt that Anders was about to go for the taksim, then decided to carry on! If you guys could actually work that in (go for it, Anders, Ramzi will be there for you), then (imho) the only other element needed to make it perfect is the woman in the purple dress from the Peret video.
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RE: How can anyone not like rumba? (in reply to rombsix)
Anders and Ramzi you "collaborated" on a very nice-sounding piece. Anders, your piece on the violin sounded very East European. I lived in Bulgaria from 1974 to 1976 under the old Todor Zhivkov communist regime Even then you could go into a "gypsy" restaurant in Sofia, and, although the menu might list 20 items but only served Chicken Kiev, you could listen to a gypsy violinist playing a very similar sounding tune.
And Ramzi, your modified rumba provided a very nice rhythmic background to Anders' Violin. Yours was well-paced and made for easy listening. That combination of lead violin with rhythmic guitar background made for a fine duo. It was a far cry from the cacophonous racket produced by Sylvano. Bravo to both of you.
Bill
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RE: How can anyone not like rumba? (in reply to BarkellWH)
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Anders and Ramzi you "collaborated" on a very nice-sounding piece. Anders, your piece on the violin sounded very East European. I lived in Bulgaria from 1974 to 1976 under the old Todor Zhivkov communist regime Even then you could go into a "gypsy" restaurant in Sofia, and, although the menu might list 20 items but only served Chicken Kiev, you could listen to a gypsy violinist playing a very similar sounding tune.
And Ramzi, your modified rumba provided a very nice rhythmic background to Anders' Violin. Yours was well-paced and made for easy listening. That combination of lead violin with rhythmic guitar background made for a fine duo. It was a far cry from the cacophonous racket produced by Sylvano. Bravo to both of you.
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RE: How can anyone not like rumba? (in reply to Anders Eliasson)
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I actually believe that the melody is north (east) african... Bulgarian music is often in more complex rythms.
That may be, Anders. I'm no ethno-musicologist, but as I mentioned, I remember the "Gypsy" restaurant my wife and I used to go to in Sofia as having a "Gypsy" violinist who played music very similar to what you were playing. At the time, in the mid-1970s, the population of Bulgaria included about ten percent ethnic Turks and about four percent ethnic Gypsies or Roma. The music being played quite possibly could have been from either ethnic group.
And the other thing I remember well was the lack of variety in restaurants under the old communist regime. The menu would have perhaps 20 entree's listed. As you went down each one, the waiter would reply "ne," "ne," until you got to Chicken Kiev, at which point he said "da." It was the one thing, and often the only thing, you could always count on in Bulgarian restaurants.
Bill
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They are daughters of a guy named "El tomate", but not Jose Fernandez Torres "Tomatito"....completely different guys. Tomatito's daughter singers flamenco in flamenco flamenco movie...again different chick.
RE: How can anyone not like rumba? (in reply to Ricardo)
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They are daughters of a guy named "El tomate", but not Jose Fernandez Torres "Tomatito"....completely different guys. Tomatito's daughter singers flamenco in flamenco flamenco movie...again different chick.
RE: How can anyone not like rumba? (in reply to Anders Eliasson)
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I actually believe that the melody is north (east) african... Bulgarian music is often in more complex rythms.
Im no ethnomusicologist either, but based on my experience -- I play oud (and also sitt in with some Eastern European folk bands here as well), this sounds like a Jewish folk melody, likely from Eastern Europe-- Romania or Hungary, most likely. it doesnt at all seem from the Arabic/North African trajectory. . there is a 3+2+2 rhythm in some middle eastern but it has a different feel and phrasing.
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RE: How can anyone not like rumba? (in reply to rombsix)
Long, slow curve and fast break in true Hungarian style:
The composer Vittorio Monti was Napolitano, but his "Czardas" was played by every Hungarian Gypsy band I have heard.
I am acquainted with the leader, Andrew Schulman, on eight-string guitar. When I complimented his band on their Hungarian Gypsy rhythm, he responded that they were rigorously schooled by the mandolinist, Tamara Volskaya. "It's in her blood," he said.
RE: How can anyone not like rumba? (in reply to Richard Jernigan)
great stuff, Richard, thanks for sharing!... i love these guys from Romania,,, heres a fast 8/8 (mostly) piece they do. first half fo of the two measure phrase, once they get going, is a 3+3+2. second measure the same but leaving off the downbeat. -- followthe upright bass...
RE: How can anyone not like rumba? (in reply to rombsix)
Nice one Norumba
If anyone wonders what the difference between a violinist and a fiddler is:
The ones in Norumbas example are fiddlers. Using very little and short vibrato and only where nescesary to lift the tone a bit. Bowing is more based on precission and rythm than on sound. Ramzis example of a Hungarian melody is the typical classically trained violinist trying to play rythmical music with a big fat romantic vibrato all over the place and big fat bow movements all the time, lacking rytmical expression.
Its a bit like classically trained guitarists trying to play flamenco. I like classical violin tecnique in classical music, elsewhere...... never.
RE: How can anyone not like rumba? (in reply to Morante)
"volare".....precise title "nel blu dipinto di blu" (in the blue colored of blue - of the italian singer Domenico Modugno)
the song "nel blu dipinto di blu" , played in rumba stile is the classic example that to make money everything can turn into a rumba! :-) ... it is not "musical contamination" ...in my Country is simply colled economical speculation! :-)
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