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RE: Favourite songs palo by palo (in reply to El Kiko)
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ORIGINAL: El Kiko
I think I would rather stand back and see the picture , or music in this case, as a whole thing...not so much broken down into tiny immovable blocks
I like the mosaic analogy.
Also the story of the men who spent years looking for the formulation for and baking of the glazes to offer each precise coloured ceramic tile is one I would care to hear. I don't think it would distract me from the mosaic at all more likely enrich my appreciation.
RE: Favourite songs palo by palo (in reply to tele)
I can't say it either. But sometimes I really like those famous spanish songs por bulería, for example el emigrante from juan valderrama sung by el pele, or volver from carlos gardel interpreted by estrella morente. luz en los balcones from terremoto hijo is also a nice song and a standard among cantadores jerezanos.
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RE: Favourite songs palo by palo (in reply to guitarbuddha)
yeah ,, i should probably leave this thread instead of standing here complaining and bring everyone down ....sorry bout that ... I'll go and complain to someone else on a different thread ....lets see ..... erm .. aha ...Treble strings for Cedar Negra?.. that looks pointless and subjective as well ... i;ll go and winge about that for a while ....
why do people always think that . strings .......blah blah blah .
RE: Favourite songs palo by palo (in reply to Escribano)
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ORIGINAL: Escribano
No cante, but I love Mi Tierra (Granaina) by Pepe Habichuela.
Now that hit the mark for me tonight. My only criticism would be why on earth someone would ruin a wonderful recording by making it suddenly swim in reverb from about 1.12 in? Anyway... great share!! Thanks.
RE: Favourite songs palo by palo (in reply to withinity)
Cristina posted this on the farruca thread.
Which was just great.
Here is another take on it by Jacinto de Almaden.
I wonder if there is less interpretation of old songs because of the desire for composer and publisher credits in the music bizz ?
There is a similar situation with Jazz. For a long time now (on recordings at least) there has been much more focus on original compostitions and less on reinterpreting the canon and that has lead to a lot of forgettable albums with nine minute disposable jams on stock progressions.
It would be great as a guitarist to hook up with a singer who wanted to explore this type of material. And I think it would be a much more educational and rewarding than playing generic rumba with another guitarist. Not that those are the only options.
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RE: Favourite songs palo by palo (in reply to pink)
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Now that hit the mark for me tonight.
It has a special place in my heart as Pepe was the first flamenco guitarist I heard properly on a recording (A Mandeli), and I once lived in a small village in the mountains of Granada.
RE: Favourite songs palo by palo (in reply to Escribano)
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ORIGINAL: Escribano
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Now that hit the mark for me tonight.
It has a special place in my heart as Pepe was the first flamenco guitarist I heard properly on a recording (A Mandeli), and I once lived in a small village in the mountains of Granada.
What village was it? I really like granada but it's too busy for me
RE: Favourite songs palo by palo (in reply to tele)
thank you cereza. Incredible, but I've never heard this one!
in another thread was mentioned Manuel Gerena, so here we go:
This song also was recorded in a live concert, where M.G. stops after the 1. deeply emotive vers and asks: " me puedo parar? - I've begun in a little false pitch" the crowd responded and he starts from the beginning. That (for me) is flamenco. It's a way of living and deeply connected with trueness. (IMI)
RE: Favourite songs palo by palo (in reply to tele)
Niña de los Peines sings Asturianada accompanied by Niño Ricardo - a recording from 1932. Asturianada? Is it a palo? If yes it really died out. Never heard anyone singing this.
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RE: Favourite songs palo by palo (in reply to devilhand)
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Niña de los Peines sings Asturianada accompanied by Niño Ricardo - a recording from 1932. Asturianada? Is it a palo? If yes it really died out. Never heard anyone singing this.
Cristina Cruces Roldán, in her long and detailed biograaphy La Niña de los Peines, El mundo flamenco de Pastora Pavon writes:
"Si bien es verdad que Pastora Pavón centró sus grabaciones en formas musicales ya establecidas y reconocidas del flamenco, intuyó el papel que podían tener otros muchos en trance de desaparición, obsoletos o se encontraban en posición tangencial respecto a aquellas. El flamenco asumió en su voz distintas músicas folklóricas y populares a las que la cantaora imprimió un sello inusitado.¨
Cruces Roldán mentions garrotín, farruca (which was just being aflamencada at the beginning of the 20th century), bamberas, guajira, vidalita, rumbas, sones cubanos and Montoya's milonga. All of these were later recorded by other artists, with the possible exception of sones cubanos. Some were generally accepted as flamenco palos.
But for asturiana, Cruces Roldán writes, "Aflamencó la forma musical de la asturiana como una impresión insólita en la historia de flamenco...¨
RNJ
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