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SLJ

 

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alzapua rest stroke or brush first 

like the title,,, I have view different videos , and just got the Total Flamenco Guitarist book,,,, The author in the book says,,, in the alzapua you brush down. then up then the rest stroke

In other material Ive seen it said the opposite.
Are both used? Is there a right or wrong way?

lastly, the author of Total Flamenco recommends the 4 finger rasquedo... I believe in the Graf Martinez Flamenco he has the 3 finger ,ami, then up with I

different styles? right or wrong? thank you for your patience. I am working to understand, and yes spending a good bit of time on the guitar. thank you Steve
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RE: alzapua rest stroke or brush first (in reply to SLJ

Actually the answer to both, is that all the techniques you describe are applicable.
Just used differently for different sound/effect. You should practice various alzapua,
and the many variants of rasqueo.

Clear as mud? :)

It get's easier, just practice each that you come across, and try to play them
properly, and most important listen to the recorded examples and try to play
so it sounds correct. With time you will find that some techniques suit you better,
and certain situations better than others.

Best Regards,
Jeff
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RE: alzapua rest stroke or brush first (in reply to SLJ

Juanito himself uses a 3 finger variant on occasion as well as 4. His book however is a very traditional approach which I believe is why you see it notated as a 4 finger. Use what works for you.
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RE: alzapua rest stroke or brush first (in reply to SLJ

Both are correct or can have different meaning in context of RHYTHM. So it is a question of timing.

MOst typically in flamenco alzapua is sprung off of the "brush" as you say but with a golpe for punch. But the timing may be such that the start of this is off the beat. In some cases the single rest stroke on the bass string above the chord is the both the start and the beat accent. It is more rare and these versions tend to have more complex things going on such as double down strokes with thumb and or pull offs etc.

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SLJ

 

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RE: alzapua rest stroke or brush first (in reply to SLJ

this will definitely work! on a 100$ guitar at that,
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 23 2013 20:26:21
 
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RE: alzapua rest stroke or brush first (in reply to SLJ

Ramzi, where'd you get that? A couple of years ago you said it was from my site, but I don't see any mention of that on your YouTube account.

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RE: alzapua rest stroke or brush first (in reply to NormanKliman

Ramzi.....?

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RE: alzapua rest stroke or brush first (in reply to NormanKliman

quote:

Ramzi.....?


Done.

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