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athrane77

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From: Reykjavik

Am I doing somethin wrong? 

Hey folks, I'm struggeling with a six note arpegio like this:

E--------0
B------1--1
G----0------0
D--
A-3
E-

I've practiced that pattern a lot but I'm just not able to play it tight and clean at speed as you can see it in that video:


Whats my problem?
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 24 2013 16:08:31
 
Munin

 

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RE: Am I doing somethin wrong? (in reply to athrane77

Are you planting?

I've also found that nail shape and length play a significant role with arpegios like this. Might be worth re-examining yours.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 24 2013 16:09:55
 
athrane77

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RE: Am I doing somethin wrong? (in reply to athrane77

good idea
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 24 2013 16:18:16
 
Miguel de Maria

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RE: Am I doing somethin wrong? (in reply to athrane77

Doesn't sound that bad to me.

Standard practice tech:
practice in alternate rhythms, swing, reverse swing, gallop, reverse gallop
practice emphasizing one particular note or finger
practice in "chunks", breaking it down into smaller sections and emphasizing those
sequential plant
full plant

repeat X your age for each of those ideas.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 24 2013 16:20:02
 
Ricardo

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RE: Am I doing somethin wrong? (in reply to athrane77

I have a trick for that. Practice full plant pima like you were just grabbing a chord, but break it up fast. THen only play the m finger on the B string, and move a note around as if it is a melody. so pima m!!! and make the m note stop rhythmically so you have this fast phrase pimam...pimam....pimam... etc and keep at it till it is fast as you want. then add i into the equation.

Next work on some niño ricardo falsetas.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 24 2013 16:32:46
 
athrane77

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RE: Am I doing somethin wrong? (in reply to athrane77

Ah thanks for that!
But why I should practice Nino Ricardo stuff? what do you mean?
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 24 2013 16:39:08
 
FredGuitarraOle

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From: Lisboa, Portugal

RE: Am I doing somethin wrong? (in reply to Miguel de Maria

quote:

Are you planting?

quote:

sequential plant
full plant

What is that planting thing you guys are talking about? Is it apoyando?
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 24 2013 19:39:07
 
athrane77

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RE: Am I doing somethin wrong? (in reply to athrane77

I was asking myself the same thing
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 24 2013 20:30:59
 
Shroomy726

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RE: Am I doing somethin wrong? (in reply to athrane77

Get your hands on a copy of Pumping Nylon. It explains all of these details very well. Also, use the Search function guys:

http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=210419&appid=&p=&mpage=1&key=&tmode=&smode=&s=#210419
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 24 2013 20:33:11
 
josecarlos

 

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RE: Am I doing somethin wrong? (in reply to athrane77

this falseta is from which piece ? guitarrist ?
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 25 2013 0:18:44
 
guitarbuddha

 

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RE: Am I doing somethin wrong? (in reply to athrane77

Hey Jof I have been following your posts and it looks like you are doing everything right !!!

Your ear is staying far ahead of your hands. Keep patient and things will stay that way.

Regards

D.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 25 2013 11:15:48
 
Sr. Martins

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RE: Am I doing somethin wrong? (in reply to athrane77

Here's the correct hand position for planting:



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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 25 2013 13:09:30
 
FredGuitarraOle

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RE: Am I doing somethin wrong? (in reply to Sr. Martins

quote:

ORIGINAL: Rui Martins

Here's the correct hand position for planting:



Nope, that's seeding.

Planting is this:



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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 25 2013 14:01:11
 
jeff_hatcher

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RE: Am I doing somethin wrong? (in reply to athrane77

quote:

Hey folks, I'm struggeling with a six note arpegio like this:

E--------0
B------1--1
G----0------0
D--
A-3
E-


These are deceptively tricky beasts. I've been trying to nail down some of these from Serranos "Flamenco Concert Selections" in the piece "Posada" (this transcription is simply lousy with arpeggios).

I can play the notes, I can play them in time, but Serrano gets this crisp, bouncy, percussive feel to it. My arpeggios are more like mushy oatmeal. I'm lacking something, but don't know what.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 25 2013 14:11:31
 
FredGuitarraOle

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RE: Am I doing somethin wrong? (in reply to jeff_hatcher

quote:

I can play the notes, I can play them in time, but Serrano gets this crisp, bouncy, percussive feel to it. My arpeggios are more like mushy oatmeal. I'm lacking something, but don't know what.

Same thing with me.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 25 2013 14:19:49
 
Sr. Martins

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RE: Am I doing somethin wrong? (in reply to FredGuitarraOle

quote:

Nope, that's seeding.


Its planting seeds.


Seeding is this:



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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 25 2013 15:31:06
 
FredGuitarraOle

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RE: Am I doing somethin wrong? (in reply to Sr. Martins

Haha já estava à espera que pusesses isso.

Ou plantas ou semeias, plantar sementes não é nada.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 25 2013 15:36:58
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