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less of the back-biting guys!
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ric
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 RE: less of the back-biting guys! (in reply to henrym3483)
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I can't speak about the Foro forum, as I haven't done too much surfing here, but I DO notice that when a bunch of guys get together sometimes things turn in to a pissing contest. For instance, I enjoy high end audio as well, and it's surprising when some A-hole puts down a product or person, A) when they haven't heard the product or B) makes a nasty comment by way of a put-down to some person. Perhaps it's human nature, perhaps it's the disturbance of youth, and a lot of people are angry and don't know it, or feel superior and do know it, but dude, listen to your old lady (girlfriend, wife, etc.) as most of us want the same thing, which means less DE-structive criticism and more CON-structive criticism, if it's asked for or warranted. Raining on someone else's parade sucks for everybody and then nobody wants go!
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Date May 25 2013 15:54:32
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Ruphus
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RE: less of the back-biting guys! (in reply to henrym3483)
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ORIGINAL: estebanana
I think what is relevant is that people strive to write direct sentences. Simplify unclear language, cull out unneeded verbiage, use dictionaries to find the correct term, all for the sake of clear communication.
This seems the take of who do not like the contents.
At least have I not one time received niggle about my language from anyone in accordance or in fair fencing.
In the opposite, do I regularly receive postive remarks about the language.
Here the last one from February: quote:
I always am amazed to read your english because it is so "colorful" in a way that is not possible for native speakers apparently. Well, I think actually I am very satisfied with the Lee, it is like any guitar, sometimes it sounds "perfect" and then sometimes I can't get it "just" right, ...
The positive takes won´t leave me unaware about my shortcomings in English language, but they confirm that I can be understood for who only cares enough.
Should I type something for someone despite of him not wanting to know in the first place I would take the time to make things easier to digest. But that has not occured yet, as far as I recall.
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Date May 27 2013 8:52:19
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mark indigo
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RE: less of the back-biting guys! (in reply to estebanana)
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I think what is relevant is that people strive to write direct sentences. Simplify unclear language, cull out unneeded verbiage, use dictionaries to find the correct term, all for the sake of clear communication.
about all topics, by all members, all the time, here on the foro, because a lot of the time when arguments get heated to the point of becoming personal it seems that people aren't understanding what is actually being said.
like the interpretation of the request for less back-biting as censorship.....
....I think that misses the point....
....and i think the point is "play the ball, not the man" or in other words, discuss topics, feel free to express different points of view and ideas, but don't personally insult people for disagreeing or holding a different point of view.
I also think it would really help if instead of getting personal people actually tried to explain why they hold the point of view that they do, and backed up what they said. And if people tried to understand where other people are coming from and why, instead of ridiculing them.
And another thing, which is that in face to face interactions I rely so much on NVC, tone of voice, gestures etc., that tell me whether the person I am talking with is being serious or joking, sarcastic, ironic etc. etc. and here on the foro, with people I have for the most part never met, it seems communication is already complicated by all of those missing channels, so I feel that a lot more effort needs to go into the choice of the actual words used to avoid the all too common mix-ups.
Emoticons don't really fill the gap as several times I have realised too late that I have been using them incorrectly, this one particularly  (didn't realise it meant eyes rolling comtemptuously). And insulting someone and following it with  adds insult to injury. Emoticons might help a bit sometimes, but they are so limited when compared to the full gamut of NVC, and are a poor substitute for clear and direct communication.
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Date May 27 2013 16:41:35
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