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Miguel de Maria

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to Grisha)

What if poor Grisha was playing these technical pieces in such a formal environment, and some raspy-voiced aficionados began loudly cheering him on with some rather risque jaleo? It would be hard not to crack up a little, I think. :)

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Richard Jernigan

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to Guest)

Jaleo... we went to a concert by Grisha and Jerome Mouffe, put on by the Austin Classical Guitar Society. It was at a big private house in a gated community, with an audience of a little more than 60 people. I didn't wear a necktie, but I did have on my blazer and some nice trousers. The rest of the crowd were pretty dressed up--and totally silent while the music went on. We sat about 6 feet from Grisha on the front row. It was hard to keep quiet, but I managed.

As for Grisha cracking up....afterwards I asked Larisa how she liked it. She said, "When you asked me if I wanted to go, I wondered a little whether it would be another stuffy classical guitar concert, but it was really fun. Those guys were having such a great time!"

RNJ

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NormanKliman

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to amigo)

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Does anyone know when that Manolo Sanlucar Zapateado was composed/published?

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i think it's the one from the Recital de Guitarra lp - so early, before Mundo Y Formas

Yes. The title is Los Caireles, it's from Recital Flamenco and it wasn't recycled for Mundo y Formas. Might be from the late 1960s. I suspect that parts of it (the thumbed arpeggiation of chords) were inspired by Javier Molina (Manolo's father Isidro studied with him). Grisha, I think you've added a few harmonies and reworked a few fingerings, haven't you? Like your interpretation of Piñonate, it sounds excellent!!!! Really good work.

For over 20 years, I got tremendous enjoyment from listening to this zapateado. Still do, but I've been trying to play it in recent years. Comes out okay about three times a year!

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HolyEvil

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to Grisha)

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ORIGINAL: Grisha

Rui, filing does help, but it inevitably leads to blisters and harder callus in a couple of days.

As for jaleos, I love them too! The thing is, Russian audience is very reserved and usually doesn't show emotions until the very end of the concert. And then they can clap for minutes and make you play encores. Just the way they are. I was that way too until I got my American citizenship.

Would cutting it out with a nail clipper help?
Are callous on the thumb a good thing?
It helps me play harder compared to without it, but sometimes it's yet bigger and kinda feels very weird sticking out.

Btw I hung out with Russian mates when I first got to Australia.. They were crazy !! Lol
Drank vodka like water and sang Russian songs loudly when drunk..
Ah.. Fun times !!

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Grisha

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to Miguel de Maria)

Yes, we Russians can get pretty crazy. Just doesn't happen during the concert.

Anyway, in Russian language voda means water. Pretty similar to vodka, no? Diminutive of water is vodichka, and of vodka - vodochka. So similar that they even put these two letters next to each other on the keyboard.

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Grisha

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to Miguel de Maria)

What do you mean "would"? We DO!

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Leñador

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to Miguel de Maria)

The word Whiskey and water have a similar relationship in Irish.

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Grisha

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to Miguel de Maria)

See? Flamenco is similar to flame, flaming. My last name is derived from the word goryachiy = hot in Russian. Destiny?

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Leñador

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to Miguel de Maria)

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See? Flamenco is similar to flame, flaming. My last name is derived from the word goryachiy = hot in Russian. Destiny?

The mystery of your supernatural talent is solved!

Maybe if I change my name legally to something flamencoey it'll make me better........or is that like when electric players buy new pedals to make them better...........

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Bulerias2005

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to Miguel de Maria)

Can't argue with Russian superiority. :) Sorry, I don't have anything else to add, I just figured I'd chime in. Haha.

Otlichno, Grisha!

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Miguel de Maria

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to Bulerias2005)

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ORIGINAL: Bulerias2005

Can't argue with Russian superiority. :) Sorry, I don't have anything else to add, I just figured I'd chime in. Haha.

Otlichno, Grisha!

Two areas of Russian superiority:

1. Grisha
2. This guy's voice:

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Grisha

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to Miguel de Maria)

That's a great voice. I always loved the Red Army Choir. And Kharitonov really sings this song well. I also like Chaliapin's interpretation of it.

Russian superiority... Has a nice ring to it. I like it!

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Florian

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to Grisha)

must be a very unsettling feeling having 50 something people on stage behind you just starring at the back of you...waiting for you...it would make me feel weird...my natural reaction would be like i have to hurry or something to not put them out

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to Leñador)

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Maybe if I change my name legally to something flamencoey it'll make me better........

already been done.

it won't make you better, but it could make you "successful"

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to Grisha)

When do the tickets go on sale for your show in Mission Viejo, California at the college?

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Richard Jernigan

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to Leñador)

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ORIGINAL: Lenador
Maybe if I change my name legally to something flamencoey it'll make me better........

When I was hanging around Ed Freeman and his students in my youth, the star pupil was a kid from San Antonio named Richard (not Ricardo) Gamez. One of my friends told me Richard's Dad was so pocho he pronounced it "Games" not "Gahm-ez". Richard was a student at the University and did some concerts in Austin. The posters read "Niño Ricardo".

Confusion ensued.

Last I heard of Richard, he was a prof at UC Santa Cruz, and had a radio program in L.A. Guy could really play!

RNJ

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Leñador

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to Miguel de Maria)

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When I was hanging around Ed Freeman and his students in my youth, the star pupil was a kid from San Antonio named Richard (not Ricardo) Gamez. One of my friends told me Richard's Dad was so pocho he pronounced it "Games" not "Gahm-ez". Richard was a student at the University and did some concerts in Austin. The posters read "Niño Ricardo".

That's a great story, I love that you know the word pocho

Your a real Texano

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daffeey

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to Leñador)

Soy pochco, para los angeles ~

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Leñador

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to Miguel de Maria)

Angelinos pa' siempre! Yo naci aqui, yo creci aqui Y aui voy a morir.

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to amigo)

oh oh ohhhhley :)

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Leñador

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to Miguel de Maria)

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oh oh ohhhhley :)

You like that 'Cente Fernandez song too?? :)

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Doitsujin

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to Miguel de Maria)

haha I like aaaal he plays. :) (too bad Grisha has much Paco repertoire which I cant listen to...)

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to Doitsujin)

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Paco repertoire which I cant listen to...)

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el carbonero

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to Miguel de Maria)

Grisha you are a great concertista guitarist.chapeau!

i watch you since long time in youtube,and i always wondered if you know accompagning cante or just guitar repertory?

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Ricardo

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to Grisha)

Nanny boo, the flamenco police saw those before you deleted em!!!

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to Grisha)

I'm down with some stomach illness, no energy, stuck in bed with my laptop. Watching this is like getting a shot in the arm though. Wow, what an event! Wonderful players all around. I mustered the energy to hook up to my HIFI for proper sound. Wow, your tone is superb, and your guitar and playing sounds fantastic even when the bar has been set so high by other fantastic players.

I liked Adam del Montes Tangos as well.

I just set a short intermission for mysef just to write this. Now back to the other half of the concert. Thanks for posting the link!

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