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Miguel de Maria

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to Grisha

What if poor Grisha was playing these technical pieces in such a formal environment, and some raspy-voiced aficionados began loudly cheering him on with some rather risque jaleo? It would be hard not to crack up a little, I think. :)

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Shroomy726

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to Miguel de Maria

I think you'd be shushed by the audience before the first syllable comes out of your mouth!!

But the example I used before of the Teatro Real... Sometimes I get chills when I listen to the record and some of those audience members throw jaleos. And that was such a temple of classical music.
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Richard Jernigan

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to Shroomy726

Jaleo... we went to a concert by Grisha and Jerome Mouffe, put on by the Austin Classical Guitar Society. It was at a big private house in a gated community, with an audience of a little more than 60 people. I didn't wear a necktie, but I did have on my blazer and some nice trousers. The rest of the crowd were pretty dressed up--and totally silent while the music went on. We sat about 6 feet from Grisha on the front row. It was hard to keep quiet, but I managed.

As for Grisha cracking up....afterwards I asked Larisa how she liked it. She said, "When you asked me if I wanted to go, I wondered a little whether it would be another stuffy classical guitar concert, but it was really fun. Those guys were having such a great time!"

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NormanKliman

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to amigo

quote:

Does anyone know when that Manolo Sanlucar Zapateado was composed/published?
quote:

i think it's the one from the Recital de Guitarra lp - so early, before Mundo Y Formas

Yes. The title is Los Caireles, it's from Recital Flamenco and it wasn't recycled for Mundo y Formas. Might be from the late 1960s. I suspect that parts of it (the thumbed arpeggiation of chords) were inspired by Javier Molina (Manolo's father Isidro studied with him). Grisha, I think you've added a few harmonies and reworked a few fingerings, haven't you? Like your interpretation of Piñonate, it sounds excellent!!!! Really good work.

For over 20 years, I got tremendous enjoyment from listening to this zapateado. Still do, but I've been trying to play it in recent years. Comes out okay about three times a year!

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HolyEvil

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to Grisha

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ORIGINAL: Grisha

Rui, filing does help, but it inevitably leads to blisters and harder callus in a couple of days.

As for jaleos, I love them too! The thing is, Russian audience is very reserved and usually doesn't show emotions until the very end of the concert. And then they can clap for minutes and make you play encores. Just the way they are. I was that way too until I got my American citizenship.


Would cutting it out with a nail clipper help?
Are callous on the thumb a good thing?
It helps me play harder compared to without it, but sometimes it's yet bigger and kinda feels very weird sticking out.

Btw I hung out with Russian mates when I first got to Australia.. They were crazy !! Lol
Drank vodka like water and sang Russian songs loudly when drunk..
Ah.. Fun times !!
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Grisha

 

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to Miguel de Maria

Yes, we Russians can get pretty crazy. Just doesn't happen during the concert.

Anyway, in Russian language voda means water. Pretty similar to vodka, no? Diminutive of water is vodichka, and of vodka - vodochka. So similar that they even put these two letters next to each other on the keyboard.

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Shroomy726

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to Grisha



Russians would fit right in in a tablao.
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Grisha

 

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to Miguel de Maria

What do you mean "would"? We DO!

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Leñador

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to Miguel de Maria

The word Whiskey and water have a similar relationship in Irish.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 20 2013 22:37:01
 
Grisha

 

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to Miguel de Maria

See? Flamenco is similar to flame, flaming. My last name is derived from the word goryachiy = hot in Russian. Destiny?

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 20 2013 22:41:24
 
Leñador

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to Miguel de Maria

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See? Flamenco is similar to flame, flaming. My last name is derived from the word goryachiy = hot in Russian. Destiny?


The mystery of your supernatural talent is solved!

Maybe if I change my name legally to something flamencoey it'll make me better........or is that like when electric players buy new pedals to make them better...........

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Bulerias2005

 

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to Miguel de Maria

Can't argue with Russian superiority. :) Sorry, I don't have anything else to add, I just figured I'd chime in. Haha.

Otlichno, Grisha!

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Miguel de Maria

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to Bulerias2005

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ORIGINAL: Bulerias2005

Can't argue with Russian superiority. :) Sorry, I don't have anything else to add, I just figured I'd chime in. Haha.

Otlichno, Grisha!


Two areas of Russian superiority:

1. Grisha
2. This guy's voice:

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 21 2013 1:58:54
 
Grisha

 

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to Miguel de Maria

That's a great voice. I always loved the Red Army Choir. And Kharitonov really sings this song well. I also like Chaliapin's interpretation of it.

Russian superiority... Has a nice ring to it. I like it!

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 21 2013 4:32:16
 
Florian

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to Grisha

must be a very unsettling feeling having 50 something people on stage behind you just starring at the back of you...waiting for you...it would make me feel weird...my natural reaction would be like i have to hurry or something to not put them out

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mark indigo

 

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to Leñador

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Maybe if I change my name legally to something flamencoey it'll make me better........


already been done.

it won't make you better, but it could make you "successful"

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 21 2013 9:44:58
 
daffeey

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to Grisha

When do the tickets go on sale for your show in Mission Viejo, California at the college?

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Richard Jernigan

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to Leñador

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ORIGINAL: Lenador
Maybe if I change my name legally to something flamencoey it'll make me better........


When I was hanging around Ed Freeman and his students in my youth, the star pupil was a kid from San Antonio named Richard (not Ricardo) Gamez. One of my friends told me Richard's Dad was so pocho he pronounced it "Games" not "Gahm-ez". Richard was a student at the University and did some concerts in Austin. The posters read "Niño Ricardo".

Confusion ensued.

Last I heard of Richard, he was a prof at UC Santa Cruz, and had a radio program in L.A. Guy could really play!

RNJ
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Leñador

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to Miguel de Maria

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When I was hanging around Ed Freeman and his students in my youth, the star pupil was a kid from San Antonio named Richard (not Ricardo) Gamez. One of my friends told me Richard's Dad was so pocho he pronounced it "Games" not "Gahm-ez". Richard was a student at the University and did some concerts in Austin. The posters read "Niño Ricardo".


That's a great story, I love that you know the word pocho Your a real Texano

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daffeey

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to Leñador

Soy pochco, para los angeles ~

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Leñador

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to Miguel de Maria

Angelinos pa' siempre! Yo naci aqui, yo creci aqui Y aui voy a morir.

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Doitsujin

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to amigo

oh oh ohhhhley :)

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Leñador

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to Miguel de Maria

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oh oh ohhhhley :)


You like that 'Cente Fernandez song too?? :)

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Doitsujin

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to Miguel de Maria

haha I like aaaal he plays. :) (too bad Grisha has much Paco repertoire which I cant listen to...)

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Paco repertoire which I cant listen to...)




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el carbonero

 

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to Miguel de Maria

Grisha you are a great concertista guitarist.chapeau!

i watch you since long time in youtube,and i always wondered if you know accompagning cante or just guitar repertory?
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Ricardo

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to Grisha

Nanny boo, the flamenco police saw those before you deleted em!!!

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mrMagenta

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RE: Grisha new videos! (in reply to Grisha

I'm down with some stomach illness, no energy, stuck in bed with my laptop. Watching this is like getting a shot in the arm though. Wow, what an event! Wonderful players all around. I mustered the energy to hook up to my HIFI for proper sound. Wow, your tone is superb, and your guitar and playing sounds fantastic even when the bar has been set so high by other fantastic players.

I liked Adam del Montes Tangos as well.

I just set a short intermission for mysef just to write this. Now back to the other half of the concert. Thanks for posting the link!
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