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RE: Rumbas y los demás cosas.
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Erik van Goch
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RE: Rumbas y los demás cosas. (in reply to zata)
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I'm surprised to hear you had the impression Moraito didn't ring a bell to dutch public and that they generally expected flamenco to be touristic here in the netherlands he was already a big name. It was no impression. I was hired specifically to introduce the show was because the organization wanted the audience to understand who Moraíto and Diego Carrasco were, and their importance in flamenco. Clearly, neither one was known in Holland at that time. The three of us travelled together from Jerez, and both Diego and Manuel talked a great deal about how they would be received. Maybe because it was their first visit? Still many of us new Moraito from our visits to spain, his records, his video, spanish television and all the posts on youtube. quote:
The director of the festival had, and still has the prime objective of banishing Dutch people’s misconceptions about flamenco, namely that it’s just clicking castanets, polkadots and sweaty ladies seducing sweatier guys. Then can you explain why Farruquito and his family did only generated a reluctant applause for a applause fishing (tourist pleasing) bulerias and a standing ovation for a fabulous seguiriyas ? Should one not expect the opposite reaction from ignorant foreigners? quote:
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if you forget all the wonderful moments you probably shared with him [Diego Carrasco] among friends and only value the performance he gave that night..... would he pass your acid test? I don’t remember ever seeing Diego Carrasco have an off night. He’s so instinctive, he manages to tap into his flamenco self as easily as most people breath in and out. quote:
The only one that made me think i was watching tourists stuff was Diego Carrasco Tourists don’t “get” Diego Carrasco. He’s best appreciated by hard-core flamenco fans. I checked some youtube video's of him and you seem to be right....the only record i found so far were i like his contribution is the alegrias of Sanlucar. I guess the fact i don't speak the language and only focus on rhythm/tonal expression deprives me from a lot of fun, but musically speaking i can't enjoy him at all. If that makes me a tourist that's fine with me. Fact is that i never concentrate on text (not even when i speak the language fluently) because there are simply to many musical details to enjoy (details that are missed by many others). My mind is set on processing music from before i was born and the very first language i ever learned was the language of a well played guitar (Bach).
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Date Jan. 18 2013 0:52:27
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zata
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Joined: Jul. 17 2003
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RE: Rumbas y los demás cosas. (in reply to Erik van Goch)
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(Quote): It was no impression. I was hired specifically to introduce the show was because the organization wanted the audience to understand who Moraíto and Diego Carrasco were, and their importance in flamenco. Clearly, neither one was known in Holland at that time. The three of us travelled together from Jerez, and both Diego and Manuel talked a great deal about how they would be received. (unquote) Maybe because it was their first visit? Still many of us new Moraito from our visits to spain, his records, his video, spanish television and all the posts on youtube. I understand now, you're talking about the flamenco community, only a very small percentage of the audience. Of course at that point there was no one in flamenco who did not know who Moraíto was. When you're on the inside looking out, it's hard to imagine (for example) that "normal" people outside of Spain have never heard of Camarón, and Paco de Lucía is no household word either. quote:
Then can you explain why Farruquito and his family did only generated a reluctant applause for a applause fishing (tourist pleasing) bulerias and a standing ovation for a fabulous seguiriyas ? Should one not expect the opposite reaction from ignorant foreigners? I don't follow. Bulerías is the last thing I'd expect non-flamenco people to appreciate because it's a compás trip. Farruquito dances the same style for siguiriyas, bulerías or anything else, only the musical backdrop changes. But people who get off on compás can appreciate what he does with bulerías.
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Date Jan. 18 2013 3:39:15
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