Ramirez 72 blanca w soundboard crack

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NewPlayer

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From: San Francisco

Ramirez 72 blanca w soundboard crack

Hello,

As you may recall, I was looking for a ramirez blanca and came across one locally. It has a few cracks that were repaired. One near the bass strings that extends to the bridge makes me a bit nervous, it was glued, no cleats. Should I pass on it? or take it?

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NewPlayer

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RE: Ramirez 72 blanca w soundboard crack (in reply to NewPlayer)

the second pic is of the back...

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NewPlayer

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RE: Ramirez 72 blanca w soundboard crack (in reply to NewPlayer)

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 30 2012 3:39:22

Ramon Amira

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RE: Ramirez 72 blanca w soundboard crack (in reply to NewPlayer)

Play it man - play it. How it sounds is the main criterion.

You would be surprised at how little a crack affects the sound - sometimes. A better description of the condition would allow the Foro luthiers to give you an opinion.

Also - what is the price? Obviously this is no small factor.

Ramon

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 30 2012 3:47:40

tele

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RE: Ramirez 72 blanca w soundboard crack (in reply to Ramon Amira)

Don't look for a vintage guitar if you can't live with cracks. They are a part of an old guitar and are completely acceptable. Guitar looks great.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 30 2012 11:53:57

bursche

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RE: Ramirez 72 blanca w soundboard crack (in reply to tele)

I assume it sounds great

But I wouldn't pay more than 3000€ (~3900$) for a Ramírez with soundboard damages. I don't know how the prices are for Ramírez in your country, though.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 30 2012 12:01:56

NewPlayer

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RE: Ramirez 72 blanca w soundboard crack (in reply to NewPlayer)

The seller is asking 3200USD. Sounds great, as it should. I don't mind the cosmetic flaw, just don't want it to give me problems in the future. I have read that cracks under the bridge KILL a guitar. Is this true?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 30 2012 16:45:55

Xavi

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RE: Ramirez 72 blanca w soundboard crack (in reply to NewPlayer)

As an additional point of reference on the market in the U.S. FWIW, a nice 81 1A sold for $3350 and a 72 1A sold for $2500 recently on Ebay. A very nice 1A Negra was unsold at $4300. It has been relisted at 4100, I believe.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 30 2012 18:08:28

NewPlayer

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RE: Ramirez 72 blanca w soundboard crack (in reply to NewPlayer)

wow....That's very important information to consider....

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 30 2012 18:38:13

tele

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RE: Ramirez 72 blanca w soundboard crack (in reply to NewPlayer)

If I would have the money I would still ask for a lower price.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 30 2012 19:16:31

jshelton5040

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RE: Ramirez 72 blanca w soundboard crack (in reply to NewPlayer)

It looks a lot like a Ramirez I bought direct. Same rosette but if I remember mine was a little earlier. I used to refer to it as my GSO (guitar shaped object). I sold it in the 80's for $350 which was more than it was worth. I used the money from it to buy blanca from Francisco Fernandez which was better but not much.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 30 2012 21:17:27

HolyEvil

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RE: Ramirez 72 blanca w soundboard crack (in reply to NewPlayer)

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ORIGINAL: NewPlayer

Hello,

As you may recall, I was looking for a ramirez blanca and came across one locally. It has a few cracks that were repaired. One near the bass strings that extends to the bridge makes me a bit nervous, it was glued, no cleats. Should I pass on it? or take it?

The answered i got from luthiers is that if the crack runs under the bridge, it might be harder to fix. I use to have a problem with buying a cracked guitar; but I don't see a problem with it now, after buying a cracked guitar which sounds awesome.. BUT with any cracked guitars, always ask for a discount. also check for any other problems to be fixed like a moved/bowed neck

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 30 2012 22:28:31