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guitarbuddha

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Mel Bay

Hey I was wondering if anyone wanted to pick one of the artistically inconsequential figures who have been unaccountably promoted by Mel Bay publishing and discuss them in a way which suggests to the uninitiated that buying one of their books might not be a tiresome digression from achieving a working concept of contemporary flamenco practice.

D.

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guitarbuddha

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RE: Mel Bay (in reply to guitarbuddha)

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Leñador

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RE: Mel Bay (in reply to guitarbuddha)

I would but I don't think I have the same grasp of the English language that you do so I'm not even sure what the questions is....

.....friggin los angeles school district failed me again.........

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guitarbuddha

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RE: Mel Bay (in reply to Leñador)

Nah just drink more beer.

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Leñador

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RE: Mel Bay (in reply to guitarbuddha)

Done and done

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Pgh_flamenco

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RE: Mel Bay (in reply to guitarbuddha)

Funny question, but answering it would be pointless. Your comments about Mel Bay apply to any of the early method books put out in this series--not just those pertaining to Flamenco.

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guitarbuddha

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RE: Mel Bay (in reply to Pgh_flamenco)

I bought and really enjoyed Steve Kaufmans recent book and DVD twofer "Complete Flatpicking Guitar" published by Mel Bay. Loads of great stuff in that book.

Hey there PGH long time

All is well ?

D.

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Yojimbo

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RE: Mel Bay (in reply to guitarbuddha)

Flamenco elitism - from a nobody.

It sickens me.

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Pgh_flamenco

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RE: Mel Bay (in reply to guitarbuddha)

quote:

Hey there PGH long time

All is well ?

It has been quite a while. All is well with me.

I hope all is well with you, too. Where have you been?

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guitarbuddha

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RE: Mel Bay (in reply to Yojimbo)

I too am easily sickened. But am wary of squandering that valuable reflex on nobodies.

Therefore it is a pleasure to meet you.

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guitarbuddha

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RE: Mel Bay (in reply to Pgh_flamenco)

Trying to get to grips with jazz manouche of all things.

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Yojimbo

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RE: Mel Bay (in reply to guitarbuddha)

elitesoldate

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Pgh_flamenco

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RE: Mel Bay (in reply to guitarbuddha)

Listening to gypsy jazz is like stepping back in time. I'm still more of a jazzy blues guitar player when it comes to jazz.

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guitarbuddha

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RE: Mel Bay (in reply to Pgh_flamenco)

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ORIGINAL: Pgh_flamenco

Listening to gypsy jazz is like stepping back in time

I know and I LOVE IT,"the sophistication of a bygone age" .

Not sure I would want to step back into the lack of sophistication of a bygone age though.

D.

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chester

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RE: Mel Bay (in reply to Pgh_flamenco)

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ORIGINAL: Pgh_flamenco

Funny question, but answering it would be pointless. Your comments about Mel Bay apply to any of the early method books put out in this series--not just those pertaining to Flamenco.

I think that when it pertains to music, method books always leave something to be desired. It's nearly impossible to verbalize the minutia that goes into organizing sounds into a coherent message. Especially when we're talking about such a highly stylized form as flamenco.

As far as Mel Bay, they published several books of sheet music that I'm pretty happy with.

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rogeliocan

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RE: Mel Bay (in reply to Leñador)

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I would but I don't think I have the same grasp of the English language that you do so I'm not even sure what the questions is.... .....friggin los angeles school district failed me again.........

funny.

Actually, it makes me think about what someone that writes a question like that does for a living. Either a lawyer or someone who writes user manual for Korean products.

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Ricardo

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RE: Mel Bay (in reply to guitarbuddha)

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ORIGINAL: guitarbuddha

Hey I was wondering if anyone wanted to pick one of the artistically inconsequential figures who have been unaccountably promoted by Mel Bay publishing and discuss them in a way which suggests to the uninitiated that buying one of their books might not be a tiresome digression from achieving a working concept of contemporary flamenco practice.

D.

Juan Serrano...not artistically "inconsequential" in history, but I think he is semi retired.

These kind of books are no sub for serious one on one study with a maestro...but I have seen students use his "method" in a classical way and come out with something. It depends more on the student than the book or teacher in the end. Comparing his playing to other method guys, he has decent compas (ie a steady tempo that other teachers lack, and this needs to be an important focus for students right from the start).

For "the real thing" in terms of books and scores, get hands on Alain Faucher's scores. YOu have to decipher his method for notating rhythms and such, but once you get it, it is quite accurate and because they are note for note transcripts of the maestros, you can be assured you are getting the proper "working concept or contemporary flamenco practice". Method books tend to water things down and make learning seem more "appealing" rather then jump into what students that really want to get somewhere need to do.

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