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Anders Eliasson

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RE: "Luthiers share your creati... (in reply to Alain Moisan)

the 3 sisters "pegsy" on parade.

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gerundino63

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RE: "Luthiers share your creati... (in reply to Anders Eliasson)

Very nice Anders!

They look beautiful! And knowing your guitars well, they will sound the same!

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JuanDaBomb

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RE: "Luthiers share your creati... (in reply to Anders Eliasson)

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ORIGINAL: Anders Eliasson

Anders, something happened with the one on the right. I think you left it in the sun too long

Kidding!

I like your orange guitars. Every time I see yours I like the color more and more. What would worry me is my grubby forearm wearing away at the finish on the top, creating a white spot there. I think I might be too acidic or something!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 22 2013 8:28:19

HolyEvil

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RE: "Luthiers share your creati... (in reply to Anders Eliasson)

Anders, the 2 left ones are just natural with French polish yeah?
I really like the look of such guitars over the tanned/ orange coloured ones.

Thanks for sharing.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 22 2013 9:20:29

Tom Blackshear

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RE: "Luthiers share your creati... (in reply to Anders Eliasson)

The darker color would take a little getting used to but I like its essential appearance as an option to the other plain styles. But I think I would go more for tan color, similar to camel.

However, I remember owning a 1965 Marcelino Barbero Hijo with the same color as yours. So this is widely acceptable in Spanish trends, and has been for a long time.

Thanks for showing your art.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 22 2013 12:21:31

tele

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RE: "Luthiers share your creati... (in reply to Tom Blackshear)

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So this is widely acceptable in Spanish trends, and has been for a long time.

Thanks for showing your art.

After conde hermanos brought it to the market(maybe though someone did it before them), it IS one of the major spanish trends, and it looks pretty good too as long as it isnt too red.

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Anders Eliasson

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RE: "Luthiers share your creati... (in reply to Anders Eliasson)

There's a spanish saying:
Para los gustos, los colores.

It will always be something personal.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 22 2013 13:28:37

Ruphus

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RE: "Luthiers share your creati... (in reply to Anders Eliasson)

Certainly.
Yet, rarity / exclusivity can play outside of the experience / education precondition for taste.

Meaning that sometimes when certain colour / shape is common, an exception from the rule can appeal simply just for that.
( Anyone rember how pale beige and brown cars used to be to the eye, and how nice / elegant it can be looking again in the meantime? - Specially as bicolour.)

From how I remember in the seventies a slightly darker reddish stain was very common for nylon guitars.

As use of that shade has been thinning out in past deacdes, I could imagine that reddish shade might regain the sparkle it must have had in the fifties / sixties or whenver it became trendy ( through the Ramirez shop, as an innovation together with the choice of using cedar on a wider scale, I believe).

I personally have been kind of over fed from it and found / still find it nice to see more and more natural / clear finish. To my eyes a plain top, specially of spruce looks so friendly.

Having said that; the brighter red / orange above is nice.
( Always digged orange, even when the 80/90ies taste police so vehemently oulawed it after its wider use in the seventies.)

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Anders Eliasson

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RE: "Luthiers share your creati... (in reply to Anders Eliasson)

Orange guitars look the best hot summer nights. They go well together with black clothes, dark eyes and sexy vibrations. Orange guitars are hot and emotional.

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tele

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RE: "Luthiers share your creati... (in reply to Anders Eliasson)

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ORIGINAL: Anders Eliasson

Orange guitars look the best hot summer nights. They go well together with black clothes, dark eyes and sexy vibrations. Orange guitars are hot and emotional.

Como chicas Andaluzas

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RE: "Luthiers share your creati... (in reply to Anders Eliasson)

Does the one on the far right have a different father? Like the postman or the UPS man?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 23 2013 4:16:26

krichards

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RE: "Luthiers share your creati... (in reply to Anders Eliasson)

Nice to see three pegheads at the same time, in the same place; an unusual occurrence.
You seem to make a lot of pegheads? Do you think they are becoming more popular these days?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 23 2013 8:16:49

Anders Eliasson

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Como chicas Andaluzas

eso eso. que toma que toma.

Another thing, here in Andalucia, to make orange and yellow guitars has its reasons. In my patio I have an orange tree and a lemon tree. And thats pretty normal. Besides Andalucians love colors and the sun makes natural colored blancas look a bit flat.

I dont know if pegheads are more popular nowadays. I´ve always made relatively many peheads. I think some 20 - 25% of my total is with pegs.
I think most like like the looks of pegs.
What is special is to have 3 pegheads as orders at the same tiem. This have never happened before.
The one to the left is with mechanical pegs (pegheds)

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 26 2013 6:21:47

Anders Eliasson

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RE: "Luthiers share your creati... (in reply to Anders Eliasson)

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"matt french polish look"

I NEVER said that. Thats something you made up.

I´m very sorry that you feel that my guitars look sick and anorexic. It must be quite a unpleasant feel.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 26 2013 7:09:32

Tom Blackshear

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RE: "Luthiers share your creati... (in reply to Anders Eliasson)

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ORIGINAL: Anders Eliasson

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"matt french polish look"

I NEVER said that. Thats something you made up.

I´m very sorry that you feel that my guitars look sick and anorexic. It must be quite a unpleasant feel.

Actually, Anders, your guitars look fine; even the high cost Felipe V's are polished with clear coat, as this shows off their fine wood use in the instruments. And many other high dollar guitars are being done the same. This also helps when a guitar needs touch up from hard wear and tear.

But there are some people who like color, even though color wears off in places on occasion.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 26 2013 13:08:54

tele

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Orange got popular because of Conde and was just another way to hide flaws by their Valencia luthiers.

What an expert. Conde has been using red lacquer since at least the seventies and back then they were done by mariano and faustino conde in Gravina 7. Only later on the production went off to other places, one of which is maybe valencia.

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RE: "Luthiers share your creati... (in reply to Anders Eliasson)

Generally accepted terms in the US in order of least shiny to most shiny.

Matte
Eggshell
Satin
Semi-Gloss
Gloss
High Gloss

I don't think actual matte is achievable with french polish, satin is probably as matte as you can get it.
I LOVE SEMANTICS!!!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 26 2013 17:35:33

tele

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tele - ah a new member from 2012. No I'm not an expert, but you must surely be.

I dont claim to be an expert and the year Im registered has no importance anyway in knowing guitars. Its just that your statement about conde red lacquer was completely false.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 26 2013 18:26:46

gj Michelob

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RE: "Luthiers share your creati... (in reply to Guest)

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really think those two pale guitars look anorexic & sick, there should be a little more colour there, not orange but at least some more yellow.

You are barking up the wrong tree, Nealf. Anders is a true purist when it comes to his work, and though he might indulge the tradition of orange-flavored guitars, his instruments solely exude unadulterated purity of material and workmanship.

I enjoyed the documentary Simon [Escribano] filmed and edited 'El Guitarrero' about the making of Anders' guitars.

It is, of course, a rather subjective matter, but when it comes to the increasingly rare specimen of truly luthier singlehandedly made guitar, i would not want any extraneous pigment to color or age the wood artificially, but would want it as 'blanca' as Spruce and Cypress are. If allowed to properly age, a 'blanca' will eventually glow, slightly darkening to a natural and elegant caramel tone, as will its sound.

Incidentally, i completely respect one's desire to have an orange or yellow guitar, or to simply detest as 'sickly' the unvarnished beauty of Cypress and Spruce. Individual Taste makes it possible to have horse races... So, this is not a criticism, but my own two cents.

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Anders Eliasson

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even the high cost Felipe V's are polished with clear coat, as this shows off their fine wood use in the instruments. And many other high dollar guitars are being done the same. This also helps when a guitar needs touch up from hard wear and tear.

I agree and one thing more is that natural colored guitars get very pretty with age. You can really see how the wood oxides and gets prettyer.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 27 2013 8:54:39

Anders Eliasson

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The prettyest IMO is a French Polish that has NOT been polished up to total shine. Its glossy in a silky way and it makes the wood looks very nice and woody at the same time.

Anders - sure you did, what you wrote on April 11 is above .... something not polished to total shine is usually referred to as "matte" ... irrespective of the semantics .. have a photo??

tele - ah a new member from 2012. No I'm not an expert, but you must surely be.

Nealf you´re totally wrong and you´re making up things. Between the 2 extremes high gloss and matte there are hundreds of varieties.
What I´m talking about has nothing to do with matte at all. So please stop now. I dont want people to think that I make "matte" guitars.

A photo wont show anything, besides my work is to build guitars and not to take pictures. There are time limits for everyone. Here you have photo of another guitar where you can see the soft gloss of a natural FP.

I´m being to kind to you now and I shouldnt have replyed to your postings. I dont think you´ll find any builder in the world that will treat you kindly when you write "I really think those two pale guitars look anorexic & sick," about the work they are proud of.

And finally.
Your last line in the quote, doesnt give you any kind of positive credir at all. Do you think you a wiser because you´ve been a member since 2004? Its the behavior of people that tells me if they are worth something or not.

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Anders Eliasson

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And another, where the color of the guitar looks a lot darker than it is, but I liked the artistic "play" in the photo. The tools are in light and guitar is not. Its a kind of anti ´show your work´photo. Its a ´show your tools at work´photo.

But you can see the gloss of the FP

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RE: "Luthiers share your creati... (in reply to Andy Culpepper)

I just completed this guitar.

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Andy Culpepper

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RE: "Luthiers share your creati... (in reply to Anders Eliasson)

I got inspired by someone over on Delcamp to make a "Line and Berry" rosette, but without the berries. Google the technique if you're interested, some pretty beautiful things are possible.
I just put this together in a piece of scrap wood. I will probably use more color if I put the design on a guitar. What do you all think of it?

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Andy Culpepper

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(and the spoiler on how it's made)

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Anders Eliasson

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RE: "Luthiers share your creati... (in reply to Anders Eliasson)

Router freak.

Nice work. As you say to pale and IMHO to static. Not enough life in it. But its just my taste.
I would consider putting something in the middle.

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RE: "Luthiers share your creati... (in reply to Anders Eliasson)

Great work chaps! I thought I would chime in with what I have been up to since my last pic of my work. Hanging up are 7 guitars I have built over the last few months. The second is a picture of a flamed Maple guitar featuring my latest ideas on bindings Hope you like them.

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Wow,

Stephan you are a real workaholic. Beautiful work and I like the bindings on the maple a lot. What is the dark wood...ebony?

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