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Ruphus

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About to quit the smoke 

Just opened the last package of tobacco.
Cross your fingers for me. Am about to give up smoking after 40 years.

Past experience with a couple of temporary quits was that I can do after some initial, very hard days of craving.
However, that was after own conviction to stop.

Whereas this time it will be for unrelated reason, named usury.
Local dealers have gauched up prices for a package of tobacco to the equivalent of 8 bucks. Such while they import it without tax.

It´s my distinct distaste of misuse and usury that has me not giving in to scumbags blackmail. ( In the same time can´t evade to prefabricated cigars, as the only brand coming close to the full taste of halfzware would be American Lucky Strike without filters. None of which - LS brand nor filterless cigarettes - is even known here, let aside available.
- Whereas common prefabricated with those 500 chemicals [ like acteon, ammoniac etc.] in there to keep you addicted without high quotes of condensate yield such an acid smoke that I can´t stand it.)

Otherwise I would prefer to keep enjoyng well rolled cigs. They grant me those little moments of contemplative pleasure over the day. Especially here, where joy is condamned, with no cafés, bars, dance clubs, live gigs or whatsoever spare time leisure opportunity.

Without cigarettes there will be left over not much more of delight than enjoying my doggies and the guitars.

Rant over.

Ruphus
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 30 2012 11:30:24
 
kozz

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RE: About to quit the smoke (in reply to Ruphus

quote:

Just opened the last package of tobacco.


That's the first step to failure...
Welcome back to the smokers-people
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 30 2012 11:42:49
 
Ruphus

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RE: About to quit the smoke (in reply to kozz

quote:

ORIGINAL: kozz

quote:

Just opened the last package of tobacco.


That's the first step to failure...
Welcome back to the smokers-people


Huh? >scratch head<
It´s the last package before ressource ends.

Ruphus
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 30 2012 11:57:55
 
kozz

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RE: About to quit the smoke (in reply to Ruphus

quote:

Huh? >scratch head<
It´s the last package before ressource ends.

Ruphus


You'll find a way to get your resources!
Lack, or price of resources never stopped anybody...
If resource/price would have been the issue and you really want to stop, you would allready got rid of it.

Just my 2 cents on having been on the same road many times.

Goodluck anyway!
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 30 2012 12:07:48
 
Erik van Goch

 

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RE: About to quit the smoke (in reply to Ruphus

As a kid 1 day i smoked so much i really thought i wouldn't live the day....i never smoked again. But i know how difficult it is to chance bad habits and wish you well doing so.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ruphus

Without cigarettes there will be left over not much more of delight than enjoying my doggies and the guitars.

Ruphus


It is said that Moraito every now and then set his guitar to fire with his fabulous toque :-)

  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 30 2012 12:18:54
 
Mordorito

 

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RE: About to quit the smoke (in reply to Erik van Goch

Yeah, and we lost the fabulous Moraito to lung cancer at the very young age of fifty-four...I did not realize fabulous toque could be so hazardous to one's health!

The ill-effects of tobacco are enough motivation to keep me off the smoke.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 30 2012 12:42:54
 
Ruphus

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RE: About to quit the smoke (in reply to kozz

quote:

ORIGINAL: kozz

If resource/price would have been the issue and you really want to stop, you would allready got rid of it.



Ney.
I´ve been wearing away for past 1,5 or 2 years from a whole box with 125 or so packages, purchased when prices were already tweaked up, yet at half of current pricing.

Went out to a special smoke ware bazar intending to obtain another box, over a month ago. As officials had decided to out of a sudden actualy pursue the supply of tabacco sans tax bandaroles, my preferred brand is considered contraband now.
Of diverse dealers that I consulted only one claimed to be able to deliver, yet at quoted through-the-roof price.

I know myself well enough to predict that I will not enable greedy guts margins of over 500%. ( Which we are all allowing already concerning the local food market racketeering, as you just can´t decide to stop eating, or let your pets starve.)
Have had someone asking smugglers whether they can get a hold from abroad, but no reply so far.

Only predictable options to prolong the run out would be to either weed out woody strings from the crumb remains of used up packages, or passing over to prefabricated cigs; with the latter being unlikely, as smoking without pleasure ain´t my cup of tea.

Wearing off lousy and bitter tasting crumbs would be the most potential of escapes, yet not very probable.

I only would had preferred to have come to a stop by internal decision, as it would be more of reason than a background of racketeering refusal.

Let´s see what there may be on the matter of drying out in a while.

Ruphus
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 30 2012 15:17:18
 
KMMI77

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RE: About to quit the smoke (in reply to Ruphus

Good luck Ruphus,

It will be a tough journey for you but those who are determined enough seem to be able to do it. A good friend managed to give up after close to 30 years. His motivation was a new girl friend who couldn't stand it. Two years have passed since and he is fine without them.

I would like to find the motivation to stop myself. Huge price hikes and now plain packaging have not deterred me yet.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 30 2012 15:28:56
 
Ruphus

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RE: About to quit the smoke (in reply to KMMI77

Hi my friend!

It´s tough indeed, but last time I was surprised by how it went.
The first days were unbearable, with me seeking for escape by drinking water all the time. Then again, drinking water made me long for a cig just the more. Yet, after three or four days the immediate craving was over. I was proud and astouned of how easy it actually was altogether. ( It must be considered that hand rolling tobacco commonly contains not much more of additives than glycol for humidity. Thus its cold turkey differes dramatically from the quitting of prefabricated mixtures, where you have been exposed to / addicted to much more vicious substances than "only" nicotine and tar. - How a stinking / sticking chemical smoke tells it already!)

Abstinence lasted for four months, until a friend visited me and brought me of that other kind of tobacco as a present. Pure it wouldn´t taste well though, so I thought to add a miniscule portion of tobacco. First only as filter, then a minute portion for matters of taste ... and you guessed it already ... after a five or six smokes yours truely was back to regular tobacco consumption. Lesson learned.

Smoking isn´t as B&W as it used to be interpreted. Actual scientific releases dare to mention also the subjectively relieving ways that it has especially to intellectually vivid or creative minds.
The way I consume, which is 8-10 cigs a day, I deem the subjective rewards higher than the physical damages. And I would had resumed if the extreme pricing was backed up by something other than just outrageous profiteering.

Ruphus
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 30 2012 15:59:12
 
Anders Eliasson

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RE: About to quit the smoke (in reply to Ruphus

Ruphus, I always forget where you live, but the way you picture it in post 1, I think you should consider moving and continue smoking..

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 30 2012 16:20:27
 
n85ae

 

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RE: About to quit the smoke (in reply to Ruphus

Quitting smoking is a hard one, in my experience the only way to do it is just
stop. Nothing else. It's simple. Most people search for some solution, until one
day out of raw determination they end up back at this - Just stop.

Regards,
Jeff
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 1 2012 3:20:09
 
machopicasso

 

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RE: About to quit the smoke (in reply to Ruphus

quote:

Whereas this time it will be for unrelated reason, named usury.
Local dealers have gauched up prices for a package of tobacco to the equivalent of 8 bucks.


Good for you. **** them. Quit smoking.

My parents let me (try to) smoke a cigar when I was 4 years old. I've never smoked since
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 1 2012 9:01:48
 
Ruphus

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RE: About to quit the smoke (in reply to Ruphus

All of your comments are just to agree with.

Though your suggestion is sounding so funny, it hits the nail on its head as can be.

As dedicated friend of objectivity and reason I´m going through the weirdest paradox with the current location. And in sight of my intention to just sue my rights and goods back and then leave, seems less and less feasible, as I´ve been reminded of just yesterday by a well-meaning local. As the thieves thanks to the booty can always invest more bribe than I could, chances are about zero to win a court case, no matter how clear the evidence of crime is.
Who can raise the most money for bribe wins. Shamelessly commonly. Period. - In a place that is rated no. 185 or so in a degrading corruption list of Transparency International.

I´m just having a hard time again to accept that one can´t defend himself yet in the most obvious of cases.
- I have seen blatant legal depriving through corruption in Germany; and how not in the Near East. Then again: I´m of the type who just can´t take it / about to risk losing everything.
You know it, Anders: In a shabby world those with ideals are doomed.

And concerning the ban of joy: Sometimes over the top hypocricy of the game will officially exorcise human desire as "hedonism", whilst out of all parvenus of the miter are in the same time hording thick slices of whole countrie´s proceeds on their private accounts abroad as just another variant of presumptuous global sports.
-

Absolutely agreed, Jeff. That´s the only way.
-

MP,

I experienced similar when a group of Spanish officers entered our train cabine when I was six or seven years old, firing up their cigars, so that I had to vomit. Sometime afterwards I told my mother that I would never ever start smoking in my life. It turned out to be one of maybe a handful of broken promisses.

Ruphus
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 1 2012 12:03:17
 
El Kiko

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RE: About to quit the smoke (in reply to Ruphus

If you really want to stop then you will do it ..........so you have a few bad moments at first...only to be expected ,,,,its passes really fast ..

I was smoking for about 35 years and then I stopped cos i wanted to and now its been about 2 years . i dont miss them at all and it doesnt bother me if my freinds still smoke , apart from you notice how bad it smells ...
I spoke to my doctor first and got some good advice and it all went well...

Its really up to you if you want to stop or not .......

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 1 2012 12:29:13
 
Ruphus

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RE: About to quit the smoke (in reply to El Kiko

quote:

ORIGINAL: El Kiko

Its really up to you if you want to stop or not .......


Absolutely!

That´s why I am uncertain, as the kick-off is not related to a deliberate decision to quit.

Ruphus
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 1 2012 12:33:54
 
El Kiko

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RE: About to quit the smoke (in reply to Ruphus

I understand ,,, one thing that my doc said was that she would help me but
all the tablets and patches and gum and whatever you want will fail if you do not really want to stop....
I went home for a few weeks to think about this and then decided yes i will do it cos i want to ...

Remember , in the end, we all stop smoking .............

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 1 2012 13:02:30
 
n85ae

 

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RE: About to quit the smoke (in reply to Ruphus

It's easy, you just get really pissed off and disgusted with yourself for smoking
turn your back and walk away from it. That's what I did, and I have never
regretted it. I used to smoke a pack a day, and get out of breath walking
to the frig. Now I ride a bike 20 miles a day, and compete in the occasional
100 mile ride. It is like night and day I would never go back to smoking.

In the words of Yul Brenner - Now that I'm gone I tell you - If you smoke,
just stop.

Regards,
Jeff
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 1 2012 21:57:16
 
Ruphus

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RE: About to quit the smoke (in reply to Ruphus

2 nights and 1,5 days without smoke now.

When you put that cup of coffee* or glas of water back on the table without reaching for the package or a glewing stick ... It indeed feels a bit like `How am I supposed to stay alive in such sparseness?!´

Yet, its the second time that I am amazed of how relatively easy abstinence is.
Like with the last quitting of 20 years ago I experience none of the described heavy symptoms smokers reportedly encount. No headaches, nervousness ...

Only two points matching, which is increased appetite and being upset. The latter however nothing new under barbaric conditions.
-

I suspect a huge difference between abstinence from prefrabricated cigars and from roll-your-own / relatively pure tabacco ones.

It must be chemicals that has folks going through hell when leaving P. Morris´ camp.
-

Anyway, I am torn between the easyness of clean being on the one hand and the lurking lust for a well rolled, tasty ... >sigh<
-

My last time quitting experience of 3-4 days of main struggle might have been of reason.
A friend just told me that it would take only 4 days for to get rid of the nicotine in one´s body.

( The rest is all mental. You understand? M ...m...mmental!! )

Thanks for bearing with moi!

Ruphus

* Am replacing the drug by coffein according to friend´s recommendation. Taken like 3 or 4 mugs yesterday.
Could be it really helps.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 11 2012 11:33:38
 
KMMI77

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RE: About to quit the smoke (in reply to Ruphus

quote:

2 nights and 1,5 days without smoke now.


Well done Ruphus. It's my guess that however you are feeling now will not get any worse. It should only get better from here.

I'm glad to hear you are doing ok.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 11 2012 12:06:34
 
n85ae

 

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RE: About to quit the smoke (in reply to Ruphus

Just keep doing that, you will be amazed some day in the near future you
will suddenly realize - "Hey I have not thought of having a smoke in days ..."
Then you will be out of the swamp!

Best of Luck!
Jeff
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 11 2012 14:54:32
 
Ruphus

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RE: About to quit the smoke (in reply to Ruphus

quote:

ORIGINAL: KMMI77

Well done Ruphus. It's my guess that however you are feeling now will not get any worse. It should only get better from here.

I'm glad to hear you are doing ok.


Thank you, my friend!

It´s outright funny how one runs on an empty pattern all the time.
Intern monologue going like: "OK, now let´s finally chill with a cig ... - Err, wasn´t that what I´m actually busy with avoiding all the time; yeah right!"

As if quitting was to be a treatment of something else, that you could have a rest from by lighting one up. Silly nonesense in my head.
-

Thank you, Jeff!
I am almost optimistic that it will be like you say, soon.
In two days the worst may be over, and the point you describe should be some weeks later I guess.

Ruphus
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 11 2012 14:55:56
 
KMMI77

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RE: About to quit the smoke (in reply to Ruphus

quote:

It´s outright funny how one runs on an empty pattern all the time.
Intern monologue going like: "OK, now let´s finally chill with a cig ... - Err, wasn´t that what I´m actually busy with avoiding all the time; yeah right!"


Hey Ruphus,

I read somewhere that that type of internal monologue will eventually become rewired. My girlfriend has given up a few times. She has informed me through her experience that initial recovery for her, took about 1 month. From there she was not noticing it so much.

Four weeks doesn't normally sound like a long time but, I imagine it would seem like a long time without cigarettes. For me it would anyway.


But knowing that you are already on your journey, That month is getting shorter and shorter everyday. And from what my girlfriend tells me, there is a point where you begin to forget them. And feel much better for it.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 12 2012 12:14:57
 
aarongreen

 

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RE: About to quit the smoke (in reply to Ruphus

Hanging out in an oncologist's office should be enough to get anyone to quit. I had a very rare but thankfully treatable form of lymphoma 6 years ago. It was localized and actually could have been caused by a stomach infection of all things. My doc put it this way, a canker sore is an infection, so is septic shock. One is annoying but will pass, the other will kill you. My form of cancer was a canker sore in his eyes, which made me very happy but I still had to undergo surgery to remove it and then radiation plus regular CAT scans and office visits. I saw a lot of people there who were very, very sick and it made me reconsider a lot of things, including my love for the occasional cigarette. I would enjoy a cigarette here and there (like one at a party, another at the bar two weeks later...) which I could do (except when in Spain and then it was all the time...when in Rome as they say) without any issue but I figured in the end, it just ain't worth it.

Life is too short as is, to help the inevitable along.

Best of luck to you quitters.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 12 2012 12:37:42
 
Ruphus

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RE: About to quit the smoke (in reply to Ruphus

Well, I am truly perplexed.

I think to be into the fourth day, and of this morning ... pinch me ... it has been all too easy with smoking none.
Sure, after breakfast: a cig would have been just perfect. And right now at this mug of coffee: One would be delicious.

But there has been nothing you could consider craving today. You know, in the actual sense of badly needing something. It is really unexpected.

I have proven to myself with several engagements that I can bring forth strong will, but can´t believe this to be the background for what I am currently experiencing.

Rather do I assume that tobacco is not really being as addictive as claimed. Personally suspecting industrial additives as the true reason for what a majority of smokers is going through.

From there my suggestion to consumers of the normal stuff:
Should you experience quitting as invincible hurdle, maybe switch to tobacco a while before ceasing.
The minute your sense of taste has adapted you will be discovering anway the utterly miserable mixture formerly adapted to.

You will then likely face a time of withdrawal concerning chemicals only, and can afterwards quit finally by putting aside the tobacco.

Besides, I have been using those two blue halfzware brands from Holland, in case of you wanting to know. However, you must know in the same time that the quality of rolling yields essential for the taste of a cigarette. ( Which is why my smoking girl friends used to beg me to role one for them.) It takes moderate measure and homogenous distribution of tobacco along the roling paper. Gaps and jams must be avoided. The first resulting in hot and fast burning sort of hay, the latter into badly stinking and tasting sticks. You gotta take your time.

If done right however, even non-smokers will remark every other time that your cigs smell "so different / nice!" with some even making exceptions for you in their otherwise strict none-smokers home. ( Those coming close enough will as well discover with surprise that your breath does not smell in the way used from smokers.)
-

Anyway, the minute your tongue starts appreciating tobacco you might never be able to enjoy prefabricated cigs again. I have seen a number of folks for whome it evolved that way. With me first in line, who prefers to quit rather than to switch to acid fumes.

Ruphus
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 12 2012 15:54:36
 
KMMI77

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RE: About to quit the smoke (in reply to Ruphus

Hey Ruphus,

How is your attempt to quit smoking going? Have you managed to give them away?

I have decided to attempt to give them away myself. I am at day number 3 of not smoking. I am handling the cravings pretty well, but also I feel pretty down and spaced out. I feel very strange actually.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jan. 3 2013 5:20:42

ToddK

 

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RE: About to quit the smoke (in reply to Ruphus

I quit about 6 weeks ago, after 32 years.

Its going well. Keeping it off of your mind is probably the best thing
TK

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jan. 3 2013 7:25:19
 
Ruphus

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RE: About to quit the smoke (in reply to Ruphus

Thank you for asking!

I was since quite a while thinking of digging out this thread to see how much time passed from the quit, but always forgot to do when roaming the foro.

So, it´s 3 months now.
And yes, I have not taken a drag in that time. - Meanwhile even serving as example for my best friend who must quit now for physical reasons. We have been appointing these days for him to fly over to here next month and I suggested that he shall keep smoking in that time to fully enjoy his stay, and quit right after his visit.

There are folks standing vis-a-vis while we talk in the street and smoke `into my face´, and same when smokers come by and make fume in my house. I even leave the ashtray with their ends on the table for days and don´t care.

Fruther there are opened tobacco packages in reach all the time and lighters flying around still in every room ( except of bed rooms).

My approach is that one must ensure to avoid any slightest of external dependency.
No appointments to quit, no attempts to keep environment off challenges ... nada.

I always disliked hysterical ex-smokers who´d want you to siver away on winter balconies, and adored my ex-smoker brother who would let folks smoke even inside his cars without the slightest sign of discomfort. - Mostly even sports cars with relatively small cabines.

The nonechalance is certainly contributing to the surprisingly easy abstain.
Another reason I assume to be that tobacco ( for cigarette roling ) is much less treated with addictive chemistry cocktails than common cigarettes.

~ 95% of the time I am flabbergasted how easy it actually is, with ocassional returns of minutes where you are an inch away from rolling yourself a yummy stick. Usually under depressing news, but also with positive emotions.
( Like Christmas night, with me depressed about being isolated from its hemisphere - and with most of my dear not being among us anymore to celebrate anyway. Then I opened the DVDs a friend had sent me and watched gigs and interviews from a David Gilmour tour. Can´t even try to tell how it moved me; - and it was hard like hell to NOT light up a cigarette.)
Damn, heavens gate music without a smoke ...

Living smokeless is just a tad too sterile, well-behaved and bland for me.

I had it twice already. Waking up from a nightmare. Both times, in a dream I had unconsciously fired up a cigarette and been smoking it with sparkling pleasure when suddenly midst of it I realized to have broken the lent / inevitably returned to the sin, shocked so much that it woke me up.

I guess Todd has it right. It certainly contributes to the abstinence that I manage to almost not think of smoke at all.
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In my experience the first three days are the worst ( it is being said that it would be four days actually), so I suppose that you will be feeling some relief from tomorrow on, my friend.

Hold out, and wellcome in the clean club!

Best,

Ruphus
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jan. 3 2013 10:08:17
 
KMMI77

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RE: About to quit the smoke (in reply to Ruphus

Thanks for the update Ruphus,

It's really great that you have reached the three month point. I like the sound of only brief craving sensations becoming few and far between.


Today was the hardest for me so far. And when i say hardest, it was not really all that bad. Providing i kept myself occupied with other things, the bad moments were not as constant as i had imagined.

I like your comments regarding reformed smokers, I know a few that are a real pain, Lol I also prefer and plan to be one of those that does not make a big deal about someone smoking a cigarette.

Hey Todd, good on you as well man!

It's still early days for me so lets see how i go?

Thanks guys

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jan. 3 2013 11:55:21
 
hamia

 

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RE: About to quit the smoke (in reply to Anders Eliasson

quote:

ORIGINAL: Anders Eliasson

Ruphus, I always forget where you live, but the way you picture it in post 1, I think you should consider moving and continue smoking..



I don't think Ruphus has ever mentioned where he lives - it is a well-guarded secret for some reason.

It seems a strange place.

I'm guessing Kazakhstan or perhaps Wales.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jan. 3 2013 12:09:43
 
Leñador

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RE: About to quit the smoke (in reply to Ruphus

I've been seriously considering quitting myself the last couple weeks, kinda funny that this thread got bumped. It's been 16 years and the longest I've quit was 6 months, I'm already down to about a pack a week, have been for 2 years now, I need to just seal the deal............

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