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Escribano

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From: England, living in Italy

Please welcome new members! 

One quality, amongst many others, that has come through in Ron's tributes, was his encouragement and warm welcomes to people starting out or returning to flamenco. In that spirit, I have started this new section where I hope new arrivals will check in and we can say "Hi".

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 5 2012 16:10:20
 
gj Michelob

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From: New York City/San Francisco

RE: Please welcome new members! (in reply to Escribano

quote:

One quality, amongst many others, that has come through in Ron's tributes, was his encouragement and warm welcomes to people starting out or returning to flamenco.


Is it alright if I stay on the Foro?

Losing Ron has brought me back to these fond memories. And I feel I am once again, asking the same question I asked when I first introduced myself to the Foro: could I join although I do not really played Flamenco, but only some scarce derivative. As I feared then, I do now, that I would offend the purists on the blog.

On that wonderful beginning, Ron and Florian greeted me warmly and I proudly accepted their kind invitation to stay. Since then, as many may remember, I passionately shared my views and music with a group of people (you) who, overtime, have become as close and familiar as old classmates are.

I often think of many of you, of your advice, compliments and even scolding reproaches.
I still follow your exploits, occasionally listening to the music you post here or on facebook. Surprisingly, the only flamenco music I still listen to (those rare days when I feel particularly cool, over a glass of Sherry and smoking a camel without filter) is Ricardo’s Madera Sonora. He was one of the very first Flamencos I ever heard (while blogging on a classical guitar forum) and he ignited my passion.

But I have been on a steady break from Nylon strings, since resigning from the Foro. So after obsessing over Flamenco guitars for about six years, and investing more than any monetary return I could hope for, but much less than the pleasure and joy they unfailingly gave me, I sold my last of the many proud possessions, my Conde Hermanos. I kept, however, the “German Vasquez Rubio” particularly because Ricardo, after listening to one of my recordings, asked what guitar I was playing as it sounded to him like a “very expensive instrument” –and if Ricardo says it, you keep the instrument for life! So I followed a sound advice, and I stored that guitar in the attic; one day, when the time is right, I am sure, I will re-discover how wonderful it is to play it.

I suppose flirting with Flamenco for me was only part of a learning curve which was leading elsewhere. And since then, I have returned to my original love, my own music. I like to call it “Country” music, but it is not really that; it encompasses Bluegrass and Celtic, Baroque and Spanish, and only God knows if there should ever be a label for “my own blend” voiced quietly by one finger-picking guitar and a raucous basso voice. Yet, I cannot wait to share it with you all, probably in what will be the “totally way off topic” section, which Simon will oblige for the occasional lost soul, such as me.

I often say that I compose the music I would love to listen to but I cannot find. And that futile, frustrating search excites an unstoppable process of stitching together notes and then phrases, embroidering a melody with subtle nuances that I sometimes believe I alone can hear. Yet, I love it; I could not live without it, really. I know that all of you who enjoy composing a tune, can somehow relate to this sentiment and know how sweet and dear your own music will always be.

Hence, I am using all (the little, that is) I have learned about classical and flamenco technique to fingerpick a pretty, parlor acoustic guitar, ‘0’-SP by a boutique maker, Huss and Dalton.

I turned fifty this year and am resolved to record and publish a few songs, as it was once my dream. I would like to share them with you, and more importantly the excitement that it will stir (in me). So, now more than a few years ago, is it alright if I stay on the Foro, even though I no longer play any Falmenco, only because I enjoy your music and company?

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 5 2012 16:33:05
 
edguerin

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Joined: Dec. 24 2007
From: Siegburg, Alemania

RE: Please welcome new members! (in reply to Escribano

Please do! I have (almost ) always enjoyed your posts.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 5 2012 17:05:51
 
Pgh_flamenco

 

Posts: 1506
Joined: Dec. 5 2007
From: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania

RE: Please welcome new members! (in reply to gj Michelob

quote:

Is it alright if I stay on the Foro?


Of course! The foro is for listeners as much as it is for players. I, too, am an aficionado of flamenco and not a player. Learning about different styles of music--especially one as abstruse as flamenco--has been a great educational experience and has changed my perspective on the other styles of music I thought I knew so well.

quote:

...and I stored that guitar in the attic...


I wouldn't store a guitar in an attic unless it was a temperature and humidity controlled environment.

The foro is a better place with you--so welcome back.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 5 2012 17:18:03
 
gj Michelob

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Joined: Nov. 7 2008
From: New York City/San Francisco

RE: Please welcome new members! (in reply to Pgh_flamenco

Thank you Ed (alomost ) and Pgh, I could not be more delighted and am so grateful for your warm responses to my post and, above all, to Simon's call [to continue Ron's tradition of welcoming new or returning members].

The circumstances make us feel closer to one another, and Ron could not have left us a richer inheritance than this bond of camaraderie which unites us beyond space and time.

.... Cheers amigos

PS.: The guitar is stored scrupulously in a temperature controlled environment, where also wine and cigars have aged well.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 5 2012 18:33:37
 
Don Dionisio

 

Posts: 360
Joined: Feb. 16 2011
From: Durham, NC

RE: Please welcome new members! (in reply to Escribano

Perhaps we should politely ask people to introduce themselves (briefly)
when they first sign up.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 5 2012 18:39:57
 
rogeliocan

Posts: 811
Joined: Nov. 23 2009
From: Canada

RE: Please welcome new members! (in reply to gj Michelob

quote:

Is it alright if I stay on the Foro?


Hey! great to have you back. I was going to ask you about your move to country music but you talked about it. I remember reading your last post... about to moving to country music.... (what!, omg)... just kidding. Good to have you back.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 5 2012 18:59:14
 
gj Michelob

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From: New York City/San Francisco

RE: Please welcome new members! (in reply to rogeliocan

quote:

country music.... (what!, omg)...


That is exactly how my wife reacted !! She calls country "gas station music"

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 5 2012 19:31:04
 
Doitsujin

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RE: Please welcome new members! (in reply to Escribano

quote:

Is it alright if I stay on the Foro?


Believe me I really missed your presence here in the foro! I´m so happy to read your posts gj!

Right now I´m close to a deadline for work. I have to workout some presentations, reports etc till today. So I´ll read everything a little later. From tomorrow till Sunday I leave the country .. at the moment too many things happen at the same time. Its unbelievable.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 5 2012 19:31:22
 
Escribano

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Joined: Jul. 6 2003
From: England, living in Italy

RE: Please welcome new members! (in reply to Don Dionisio

quote:

Perhaps we should politely ask people to introduce themselves (briefly)
when they first sign up.


It's now in the registration email.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 5 2012 21:22:36
 
gj Michelob

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From: New York City/San Francisco

RE: Please welcome new members! (in reply to Doitsujin

quote:

Believe me I really missed your presence here in the foro! I´m so happy to read your posts gj!


Absolutely a mutual sentiment, dear Doitsujin.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 5 2012 21:43:08
 
xirdneH_imiJ

Posts: 1907
Joined: Dec. 2 2006
From: Budapest, now in Southampton

RE: Please welcome new members! (in reply to gj Michelob

i have missed you too! :)
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 5 2012 22:35:04
 
chester

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Joined: Oct. 29 2010
 

RE: Please welcome new members! (in reply to gj Michelob

I joined after you've already left, but your presence was definitely felt. I was hoping you'd return as your posts are some of the most entertaining reads around.

I'm with you on the 'not a flamenco purist', so don't feel alone next time some shmoe brings up the old puro vs fakemenco argument. I got your back.

Re the bay area - do you go out to see Jason at all? He's got some bi-weekly gigs at various spots around the city. I usually meet interesting people at his gigs, not to mention his amazing playing. Let me know if you're up for one - I might be able to convince my wife to give me a night off from child-rearing.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 5 2012 22:38:23
 
gj Michelob

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From: New York City/San Francisco

RE: Please welcome new members! (in reply to chester

Thank you, Hendrix and Chester.

There is a heavy yet relaxed atmosphere over the foro, as when one finally lifts his head after crying.

Chester, here is my email, I spend half of my time out here in SF and would love to meet and catch some gig… gjc@corradomontgomery.com

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 5 2012 23:05:04
 
Escribano

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From: England, living in Italy

RE: Please welcome new members! (in reply to gj Michelob

Always nice to see your smiling face, GJ. Look forward to that beer in London with you.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 5 2012 23:15:35
 
dararith

Posts: 120
Joined: Jun. 4 2010
From: Oakland, CA

RE: Please welcome new members! (in reply to Escribano

I'm hardly ever on, but decided to make a more committed return. I have used the foro a lot when perusing through audio clips and what current trend is in the flamenco world in hopes of me learning everything better. Hearing everyone play, progressing, putting their hard work into the challenges that come up so often (whatever happened to that??) only inspires me to continue play more and more (may not play 'better', but definitely to play more). For that, I thank you all.

I don't think I ever properly introduced myself in the foro, but thanks to this thread, I'll go ahead and do so.

I'm Dararith, from the San Francisco Bay Area. I've been playing flamenco for a few years, learning what I can from youtube and this foro...though I have no music background/experience, and I am now starting to understand what others mean when they laugh that I'm starting right off the bat with flamenco, much akin to jumping into the lion's den, combined with drinking straight from the fire hose.
I have a youtube up with me attempting to play flamenco a couple of years back, but it's quite embarrassing as I have much to learn. But anyway, I hope to learn more from everyone here, since the knowledge here is vast...

And gj! Ricardo's Madera Sonora CD is one BADASS album. I share your joy in that, it's one of the only CD I listen to nowadays. It's got such a good flow and composed beautifully. Again, lots of talent here in the foro..lots all share and keep this fire lit!
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 6 2012 2:51:55
 
Gummy

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Joined: Nov. 27 2005
From: North Carolina, USA

RE: Please welcome new members! (in reply to gj Michelob

I am also very happy to see you back.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 6 2012 2:53:16
 
KMMI77

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Joined: Jul. 26 2009
From: The land down under

RE: Please welcome new members! (in reply to gj Michelob

Great to have you back Gj,

I was hoping you would stick around as well

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Florian

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Joined: Jul. 14 2003
From: Adelaide/Australia

RE: Please welcome new members! (in reply to gj Michelob

Very happy to have you back my friend, the forum is warmer and kinder when you are here

You have your own nice effect on us when you are here, at times you might see you dont like (hope not) just ignore it or look the other way or say something about it but dont let it make YOU leave...for every one thing you dont like theres i dont know how many hundreds of members that like having you here, so dont ever leave us again :-) it really is nice to have someone that cares as much as you here

quote:

I'm hardly ever on, but decided to make a more committed return


thats great to hear too dararith, welcome back to you too

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 6 2012 5:25:20
 
Tomrocker

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Joined: Apr. 18 2010
From: Italy

RE: Please welcome new members! (in reply to Escribano

Gj, i had no idea you are originally from Italy¡ That explan the high artistic spirit and the beautiful sense of humor

I'm happy to see Senior members back as for years i read their contributions and enjoyed it. I'd suggest a foro meeting to be held in a different country every year. ( if we choose a place beside the sea, in summer time , the probability of the numerous attendants will griw more. I love to meet you one day guys and i'm happy to meet you here

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 6 2012 7:45:33
 
gbv1158

 

Posts: 410
Joined: May 29 2009
From: Italy

RE: Please welcome new members! (in reply to gj Michelob

quote:



Is it alright if I stay on the Foro?



Giacomo !: I really believe that ALL OF US missed your presence here in the foro!

please don't have any doubt of it!!

Each of us here in the forum is a richness!

this forum is a unique experience!


ciao,
giambattista
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 6 2012 10:01:50
 
Argaith

Posts: 481
Joined: May 6 2009
From: Iran (living in London)

RE: Please welcome new members! (in reply to gj Michelob

quote:

Is it alright if I stay on the Foro?


Hi gj,

I couldn't work out why left in the first place!
You belong here, and it's a pleasure to have you back.

A

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 6 2012 12:09:34
 
TANúñez

Posts: 2559
Joined: Jul. 10 2003
From: TEXAS

RE: Please welcome new members! (in reply to gj Michelob

gj you've been gone much too long old friend. Remember, you don't have to play flamenco to be here. You only need the admiration and appreciation for the art. Plus, I'm willing to bet you are the foro's best dresser

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 6 2012 12:42:31
 
gj Michelob

Posts: 1531
Joined: Nov. 7 2008
From: New York City/San Francisco

RE: Please welcome new members! (in reply to Escribano

Simon, Dararith, Gummy, KMM, Florian, TomRocker, GBV, Argaith, TANunez…. thank you, thank you and thank you again.

Now I feel my exile ended, and I am back… “home”.

This place stirs an assortment of ideas and projects, I wil run them by Simon, and will try to raise the post of what we can do with this awesome community of musicians.

At one point, if memory serves me well, Ron had summoned all to add their location under their names, so that we could appreciate the geographic vastity of our membership. And, we should add, that it will also encourage us, when travelling, to meet the members who live in the city we visit.

So let’s oblige Ron on that one, please add the "city" where you are posting from!

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 6 2012 14:11:18
 
Florian

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Joined: Jul. 14 2003
From: Adelaide/Australia

RE: Please welcome new members! (in reply to gj Michelob

quote:

So let’s oblige Ron on that one, please add the "city" where you are posting from!



HEHE YES thats one of the things he used to get frustrated about, he asked like a million times

"Jesus Crist ...how hard is it ? !! to add your country or city !!

Cheers

Ron

his outbursts didn't happen often but when they did they were fun to watch...and they were never without good cause and always ended in a polite way.

Great Idea Gj it would be nice to honor Ron's wish, it was the one thing that always frustrated him

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 6 2012 14:32:56
 
keith

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Joined: Sep. 29 2009
From: Back in Boston

RE: Please welcome new members! (in reply to Escribano

michelob--good to see your return/not dropping off the face of the earth. some of the best threads, albeit at another forum, involved your topics you started or contributed to. now, if we can only figure out who is iberianwolf,we can really get the fireworks to begin.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 6 2012 15:44:29
 
El Kiko

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Joined: Jun. 7 2010
From: The South Ireland

RE: Please welcome new members! (in reply to Florian

quote:

"Jesus Crist ...how hard is it ? !! to add your country or city !!



Done and done ....actually he is right ,,,,it wasnt hard at all and didnt hurt ( much )

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 6 2012 15:53:43
 
TANúñez

Posts: 2559
Joined: Jul. 10 2003
From: TEXAS

RE: Please welcome new members! (in reply to gj Michelob

Done! I've been "From the Uterus" since 1970. I guess it's time for a change.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 6 2012 16:21:41
 
Richard Jernigan

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From: Austin, Texas USA

RE: Please welcome new members! (in reply to gj Michelob

quote:

ORIGINAL: gj Michelob

Now I feel my exile ended, and I am back… “home”.



Welcome back. I've always enjoyed your posts. When I first became active here, your civilized presence was one of the things I found attractive.

RNJ
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 6 2012 16:29:59
 
Florian

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Joined: Jul. 14 2003
From: Adelaide/Australia

RE: Please welcome new members! (in reply to Escribano

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Done and done


This is brilliant guys ... somewhere up there Ron's got a big grin on his face right now

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