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RE: Manual de la guitarra flamenca b... (in reply to Guitart Flamenco)
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The estilos basicos are the examples of compas, where you must understood the compas...and the better solution is write this in music and see and listen the record of this estilos by Paco... We haven't negative basic about this...and we think like Paco that in music the campas is the only possibility to understood..
I respect Paco's desire, and being his video he can do as he feels it's best.
BUT:
I am completely unable to understand your explanation, and for those of us that do not read music we will just have to do with what was provided. Witch to me is a big shortfall of a instructional DVD. Flamenco guitar is all about "compas", and when you deprive us from such important information we can not utilize this instructional DVD to it's potential. I do not see what harm would have done to have included tab in that section.
For those that have not purchase this DVD, and can not read music, be aware of the fact that the section on "compas" does not contain Tab. I was disappointed.
RE: Manual de la guitarra flamenca b... (in reply to RTC)
The Paco's compas video is very very simple and clear - so you can be sure that you don't need the transcription of this. Untill 11 november 2012 if you buy the DVD you will have a fantastic Savarez Tomatito flamenco set string!
RE: Manual de la guitarra flamenca b... (in reply to tri7/5)
Do people really pick up compás sections from tabs? I don't understand why you would need that, since the notes will be just a couple chords you know already anyway, while the rhythm is notated (and would be notated exactly the same way for tab as well) or can/should be picked up from the video. So I don't understand how tab would help in this case?
RE: Manual de la guitarra flamenca b... (in reply to tri7/5)
Well, the answer is YES people do pick up Compas sections from Tab and here's why.
I can read music, but I find it exceedingly difficult to do on the guitar so when I first discovered TAB I thought this is fantastic. It can be written just like standard notation, BUT with strings and fret position. Wow wonderfull! Finally I don't have waste all my time trying to figure out which note is where on the fretboard.
Yes it may be that if the chord is indicated, then TAB is not necessary but I still find that TAB included makes it much easier for clarification.
I don't understand this argument that it is better for showing Compas to use standard notation. You could/should do both, right? Then there is no more difficulty for anybody. The people offended by tab can just get out some masking tape and cover the tab ... Or perhaps duct tape ... :)
(Sorry for the sarcasm but the argument against tab seems silly).
In any case - I do like Paco's stuff, and have his older course which I still look at. I would likely buy this newer one as well, BUT not if it's not using tab.
RE: Manual de la guitarra flamenca b... (in reply to tri7/5)
for me the answer is NO. In my case tabs are usefull only to get the notes. Once I understand the fretting, I always and only refer to the audio or video recording to pick up the groove.
That's why I think that some books like the "duende flamenco" series (C. Worms) are worthless for me. You have all the falsetas tabbed but then the audio references included are only in a discographic manner. In most of the case, if I want to learn a falseta from these books, I'll need to listen the original audio.
I don't have the book discussed here, but what if the teacher demonstrate the strumming with apagado (mutted string)?
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RE: Manual de la guitarra flamenca b... (in reply to mezzo)
I agree with this, the tabs to find the notes, and really listening is the only way to understand how to play it.
Jeff
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for me the answer is NO. In my case tabs are usefull only to get the notes. Once I understand the fretting, I always and only refer to the audio or video recording to pick up the groove.
That's why I think that some books like the "duende flamenco" series (C. Worms) are worthless for me. You have all the falsetas tabbed but then the audio references included are only in a discographic manner. In most of the case, if I want to learn a falseta from these books, I'll need to listen the original audio.
I don't have the book discussed here, but what if the teacher demonstrate the strumming with apagado (mutted string)?
RE: Manual de la guitarra flamenca b... (in reply to tri7/5)
To make clear with all the readers the 32 falsetas recorded are in notation and tablature, only the compas for decision of Paco are only in notation...
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