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Pedoviejo

 

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RE: Lebanese pop music - where are w... (in reply to rombsix

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What do you mean about connotations and Arabic?


I see that my paragraph structure wandered a bit off topic: In English as in French, cat = pussy = ...... Since Ms. Links seems to have been using "cat" metaphorically (so to speak), is/was that connotation the same in Arabic, or was this something recently imported? I have certainly not learned enough Arabic ("yet" I say hopefully) to know that answer.
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Ron.M

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RE: Lebanese pop music - where are w... (in reply to Pedoviejo

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But, I sadly point out, George W. Bush was from our generation too


Oh yeah, I agree totally, Pedoviejo!
Our generation screwed up the world as much as any other.

60's was just a great period to be young!

(Then again...I suppose ANY period is a good period to be young!! )

BTW: Europe on $5 a day was only for middle-class American kids! In 1969 I lived for 3 months in Madrid on less than 200 pesetas a day INCLUDING rent!

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rombsix

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RE: Lebanese pop music - where are w... (in reply to Pedoviejo

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I see that my paragraph structure wandered a bit off topic: In English as in French, cat = pussy = ...... Since Ms. Links seems to have been using "cat" metaphorically (so to speak), is/was that connotation the same in Arabic, or was this something recently imported? I have certainly not learned enough Arabic ("yet" I say hopefully) to know that answer.


Oh, now I get it. Yes, the same connotation applies in Arabic.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 19 2012 8:01:13
 
rombsix

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RE: Lebanese pop music - where are w... (in reply to Pedoviejo

An acoustic version that my friend came up with.



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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 19 2012 11:36:37
 
Sr. Martins

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RE: Lebanese pop music - where are w... (in reply to rombsix

You dont speak portuguese, you speak the language of love.. thats ok if you stick your "tongue" out of your pants
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RE: Lebanese pop music - where are w... (in reply to Ron.M

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60's was just a great period to be young!

(Then again...I suppose ANY period is a good period to be young!!


You are absolutely right, Ron! I couldn't agree more. I, too, am a child of the Sixties, and I reached many conclusions at that time of my life, some of which I still consider valid, some of which were naive, and some of which were downright stupid in hindsight. Not all things we cherished when we were young hold up well to careful scrutiny.

I am reminded of William Wordsworth's famous lines about the French Revolution: "Bliss was it in that dawn to be alive, but to be young was very heaven!" Well, we all know where that led: Robespierre and the Reign of Terror.

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mottallica

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RE: Lebanese pop music - where are w... (in reply to Pedoviejo

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And I loved it when the comic-commentator corrected Ms. Link's garbling of "schmuk" - Yiddish adopted into American English now finds its way to an Arabic-speaking country. But did she understand what it really meant? Schmuks and schmekkels? (Jewish American guy telling his friends about his vacation trip to Israel, the highlight of which was a camel ride. "And, to top it off, they let me ride the most virile, macho camel of them all!" he says.
"How could you know that?" his friend asks.
"Because wherever I rode, everyone pointed my way and said, 'Look at the schmuk on that camel!'")

BTW, my girlfriend is a physician, and at present her "chief" is from Lebanon - seems to have followed the exact path you noted: Go to U.S., become super specialist, rise in the ranks to chief of service. But it's not just the "Lebanese plan", but also the Turkish, Iranian, Indian, Israeli, Chinese..........


2 things pls :D

1)sorry to ruin your joke - Israel is not the first place you'd go on a camel ride - not really as much of a desert as you might think :D

2)we don't face the same problems about physicians fleeing - the Israeli medicine is top of the line - we have the opposite problem. since the studying is so hard and the Admissions are so high here ,a lot of Israeli people that want to be doctors go study in Europe (usually in Czech republic or Italy) then come back to face the final exam here
the Israeli equivalent to the american SATs is called the psychometric test and it ranges from 200-800 , 200 being you wrote your name correctly 800 being perfect
it's a 5-6 hour test of Hebrew English and math and to study medicine you need to score about 760
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rombsix

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RE: Lebanese pop music - where are w... (in reply to Sr. Martins

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You dont speak portuguese, you speak the language of love.. thats ok if you stick your "tongue" out of your pants




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kudo

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RE: Lebanese pop music - where are w... (in reply to mottallica

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electric engineering

I have deep respect for those who do any sort of work with electricity, especially electrical engineers,because ...ohhh man! its so tough , and its all j's !

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Pedoviejo

 

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RE: Lebanese pop music - where are w... (in reply to mottallica

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1)sorry to ruin your joke - Israel is not the first place you'd go on a camel ride - not really as much of a desert as you might think :D


Hey, Mottalica -

The joke was told to me by an American Jew, a Cantor, no less. From my experience, what deserts and camels there are in Israel is about as much as most American Jews will ever see in the Near East, so they have to suffice.

Quote: "the Israeli equivalent to the american SATs is called the psychometric test and it ranges from 200-800 , 200 being you wrote your name correctly 800 being perfect it's a 5-6 hour test of Hebrew English and math and to study medicine you need to score about 760 "


And I'll admit that those are pretty tough standards, usually a sign of tremendous competition for very few slots. However, more than just a few Americans go to medical school in other countries when they can't get accepted here (remember President Reagan "rescuing" those American medical students on the island of Grenada in the Caribbean from "Cuban insurgents" in the 1980's?). When they return, they are lumpted together with all other non-American trained physicians under the title "FMG" - Foreign Medical Graduate - which has a somewhat pejorative connotation. However, it is also my observation that a significant number of the staffs at major medical schools and centers here are from other countries. E.g., the only full professor of neurology at Tulane Medical School & Center is Iranian (a great friend, too), and the pediatric neurologist at his clinic is Israeli. My personal, family doc is Pakistani, Mohammed Youssef, also a friend.

When I was growing up my ambition was to be a surgeon. Then I fell in love with flamenco guitar which drastically altered that plan (my mother crying and cursing all the way, "You'll starve, you'll starve!" She wasn't Jewish but she should have been.) I ended up in law, and ironically, through coincidence I ended up doing lots of medical law and now know just enough medicine to be dangerous. And still playing flamenco almost fifty years later

So lighten up, Mottalica! Don't torture yourself. Try to make a living at something you at least like doing, and there are many, many different ways to do good in this world. We can't all be Abu 'Ali ibn Sina or Moshe ben Maimon, great physician polymaths - but their kind is just about extinct today due to that highly focused, intensive training that you refer to, which by its structure and nature excludes just about everything else that is important to making a full human being. I don't know how things are there, but there's so many "professionals" here who are highly trained and make good money, whether it's in medicine or law or acocunting or whatever, but when you go outside their area of expertise they become less interesting than the guy who repairs your car, who often also has better instincts and insights. Don't let the good person you are, with your humanity intact, get sqeezed into a tiny capsule. If it's for you and you're ready, you'll blow through those exams. Just don't let them be the judgment of your life.
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mottallica

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RE: Lebanese pop music - where are w... (in reply to Pedoviejo

well first of all thanks man that was a great advice for i really appritiate it profoundly.


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remember President Reagan "rescuing" those American medical students on the island of Grenada in the Caribbean from "Cuban insurgents" in the 1980's?
nope i was born in 1989 :D

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the only full professor of neurology at Tulane Medical School & Center is Iranian (a great friend, too), and the pediatric neurologist at his clinic is Israeli. My personal, family doc is Pakistani, Mohammed Youssef, also a friend.


glad to hear they all get a long

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my mother crying and cursing all the way, "You'll starve, you'll starve!" She wasn't Jewish but she should have been.


really sounds like she shuold have

and about the joke - i know , just wanted to enlighten those who don't know israel (btw Lebanon too if you didn't know that as well) is no 3rd world country - far from it
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rombsix

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RE: Lebanese pop music - where are w... (in reply to mottallica

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just wanted to enlighten those who don't know israel (btw Lebanon too if you didn't know that as well) is no 3rd world country - far from it


I don't know about your country, but I know about mine. We have so many problems when it comes to the very basics (at least as compared to most parts of the world) that it's a real shame. If we just want to name one thing, we can talk about the power/electricity cuts in Lebanon where Beirut still has about 3 to 6 hours of cuts daily, whereas other (major) cities suffer up to 15 or more hours of cuts daily. How can one survive without electricity nowadays? Truly unbelievable and down-right unacceptable...

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Pedoviejo

 

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RE: Lebanese pop music - where are w... (in reply to Ron.M

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BTW: Europe on $5 a day was only for middle-class American kids! In 1969 I lived for 3 months in Madrid on less than 200 pesetas a day INCLUDING rent!


If I had had $5 a day when I lived in Madrid I would have been rich! Across the street from the studios on Amor de Dios, 55 pesetas - about $1 - bought a three course lunch with bottled water, wine, and coffee (which the waiter had to go get from Bar Moka down on the corner). It was truly as Camarón sang on the last cut of the last album of his life:

“Yo vendí a un payo un caballo y una yequa y gané bastante pa’ comer pa’ tré’ semana y media.”

It was all counted in terms of how many days you would be able to eat. As the old Jewish saying goes: "With money in your pocket, you are handsome, you are wise, and you can sing well too!"
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Pedoviejo

 

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RE: Lebanese pop music - where are w... (in reply to rombsix

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We have so many problems when it comes to the very basics (at least as compared to most parts of the world) that it's a real shame.


Some more of the countless reasons why war sucks, Ramzi. From what I understand, Lebanon has never been allowed to heal since finghting broke out in the late 1970's. If Lebanon grew more citizens like you there would be both the time and the will to have regular electricity. May that be so.
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rombsix

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RE: Lebanese pop music - where are w... (in reply to Pedoviejo

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May that be so.


Indeed, my friend, indeed...

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mottallica

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RE: Lebanese pop music - where are w... (in reply to rombsix

Well my friend obviously i have never been to lebanon and nor will i be anytime soon ( unless another war will break loose and we both dont want that obviously) but i read about the lebanease history and know all about the civil war between sooni shiee christians druzi etc. but my father had been to beirut on the first war and told me beirut is very beatiful and modern.
I know you stil have many problrems just didnt know they are that bad.
What i ment on my last msg though is that people dont live in tents and ride camels ...
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rombsix

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What i ment on my last msg though is that people dont live in tents and ride camels ...


Right...

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Ron.M

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RE: Lebanese pop music - where are w... (in reply to mottallica

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What i ment on my last msg though is that people dont live in tents and ride camels ...


And we don't live in caves, wear kilts and go wild haggis hunting with claymores..

Well not anymore..but if the economy doesn't pick up soon then I reckon a lot of us will be returning to that. .

cheers,

Ron
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rombsix

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Pedoviejo

 

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RE: Lebanese pop music - where are w... (in reply to mottallica

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What i ment on my last msg though is that people dont live in tents and ride camels ...


You're right - only the American tourists do (and after they're gone the tour guide takes off his bedouin clothes, puts on an Armani sport coat and drives home in his Mercedes)



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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 20 2012 16:27:21
 
mottallica

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RE: Lebanese pop music - where are w... (in reply to Pedoviejo

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You're right - only the American tourists do (and after they're gone the tour guide takes off his bedouin clothes, puts on an Armani sport coat and drives home in his Mercedes)


corect.

but thats the beauty of israel to me - you have the place like you showed and -

Tel Aviv


Ramat Hagolan (the snowy mountain is the Hermon)


Ramon crater


Sea Of Galilee


The Dead Sea



And of course --- JERUSALEM


from the two places furthest from one another it's 4 hours drive

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chester

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from the two places furthest from one another it's 4 hours drive


Or a 10 hour camel ride.
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