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FredGuitarraOle

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RE: Flamenco documentary films (in reply to gmburns

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That's practically a national sport here in Brasil.



By the way, how are things going over there? Are things calming down? I hope so. This last few days I haven't seen any news on TV about the manifestations.
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gmburns

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Not so bad really. There was a huge national protest today with many of the labor unions, but that's apparently an annual thing. I expect there to be more and more protests over the next several months, but nothing strung out like it was during the Confed Cup. I had to cancel a class today because the protests disrupted all transportation here in Curitiba, but that's OK as I got to do some painting and get caught up on some work. I have an exhibit that I'm getting ready for in August, so it was good.

I imagine there will be more protests next year during the World Cup. Brazilians have a flair for the dramatic and then quickly forgetting, but these protests were quite important because there is too much corruption here and not enough decent public services. It's also a pretty violent country, too.

But yeah, quiet since the end of the cup.

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FredGuitarraOle

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RE: Flamenco documentary films (in reply to gmburns

I'm glad things calmed down.

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Brazilians have a flair for the dramatic and then quickly forgetting

I guess they inherit that from the portuguese, it's the same here. Voting for clowns was also inherited from us.
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gmburns

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It's funny, they blame everything on the Portuguese.

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Sr. Martins

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It's funny, they blame everything on the Portuguese.


We do that too.
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gmburns

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That was a great find. I got a lot of good ideas from this video, so thanks!

I found it interesting the three different perspectives on where Flamenco has come and is going. One the one side there is Curro Cueto embracing the mixture of flamenco with other styles and on the other there is Gabriel Moreno suggesting that the current crop has destroyed what the greats had established in the past. Considering that flamenco is indeed a mix of cultures, albeit brought together via a similar admonishment, maybe the more traditionalist musicians are the ones destroying an inevitable disappearing of flamenco by continuing to preserve the beginnings of what was already an evolution. (how's that for a run-on?).

In other words, if it was a blend to begin with doesn't that mean it should continue to blend, and thus be something completely different in a hundred years' time? I guess it depends on how it's blended and with what.

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gmburns

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Just sharing what I've been reading:





edit: what style of singing would one call this?

And I love the dance at the end. That's why I posted it.

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KMMI77

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RE: Flamenco documentary films (in reply to FredGuitarraOle

Some more





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orsonw

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Some more
...and more on Karime Amaya.

http://vimeo.com/43420310
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Sr. Martins

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RE: Flamenco documentary films (in reply to orsonw

Hmm.. interesting..
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Ricardo

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RE: Flamenco documentary films (in reply to gmburns

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Considering that flamenco is indeed a mix of cultures, albeit brought together via a similar admonishment, maybe the more traditionalist musicians are the ones destroying an inevitable disappearing of flamenco by continuing to preserve the beginnings of what was already an evolution. (


Not really. In order to do a proper advancement, the modern artist needs to fully embrace the tradition FIRST, and explore carefully. People like Paco de Lucia and Camaron were so successful of creating new things thanks to their absolute MASTERY of the old forms. Unfortunately you don't see that same level of mastery yet we find tons of "fusions" that don't always do the art form at large justice. I will admit that the glass case antique versions of cantes interpreted is not doing much for the cante, there could in theory be more creativity within the forms but aficionados will at first reject it I am sure. But a very skilled singer could do it. Guitar players have it easier for sure. As discussed before, the skilled singers IMO often gravitate to more commercial veins such as pop canciones or rumbas/buleria/tangos where they have more freedom to be creative without offending any aficionados. It's a shame cuz the way I see it so much more could be done with Cantes de la Mina, fandangos, even solea and siguiriyas, which all appear to be in a glass case these days.

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gmburns

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RE: Flamenco documentary films (in reply to Ricardo

Long time since I've been around. Came across this short film here. No subtitles and not in Spanish (Romani perhaps?), but still interesting. Filmed in 1962 and takes place in the Sacro Monte.

Honestly, there are no dances more masculine than Flamenco in my mind. And these kids - it's no coincidence when I hear / read people who say that the single most important piece of information about a flamenco is whether he or she is of Romani origin. My god these kids are good.

http://[link]http://www.videoactive.eu/VideoActive/VideoDetails.do?id=VA_SLBA2009012815265021&sw&curpage=0
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edit: what style of singing would one call this?

And I love the dance at the end. That's why I posted it.


This is called flamenco

Curiously the dance is accompanied by Aurelio singing Alegrías por Tanguillos. Very interesting. Cantaores love to demonstrate that they can sing any palo por any other palo
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ric

 

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RE: Flamenco documentary films (in reply to kudo

This was just sent to me. Amazing!
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10203245186751289
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rombsix

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http://aeon.co/video/culture/solea-the-flamenco-of-seville/

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gmburns

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RE: Flamenco documentary films (in reply to FredGuitarraOle

Came across a bunch of documentaries. Not sure if they're on here already, but here's the first one on Manolo Caracol:



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HeyDukeLives

 

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RE: Flamenco documentary films (in reply to kudo

Bajari is a great film about Carmen Amaya's granddaughter who is an incredible dancer.
It showed at the national institute of flamenco festival in Albuquerque two years ago.
If you can find it, watch it!
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gmburns

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Bajari


Found the trailer, but nothing more (at least streaming):



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gmburns

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RE: Flamenco documentary films (in reply to FredGuitarraOle

Apparently a show with Perla de Cadiz and Paco Cepero



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Ricardo

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RE: Flamenco documentary films (in reply to gmburns

Glad you found these but....please do a search on "Rito y Geografia del cante flamenco" before you find anymore.

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koenie17

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RE: Flamenco documentary films (in reply to kudo

Found this on youtube today, Great documetary!! English Spoken

https://youtu.be/sU4zcKaSGR4

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