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From: Sydney, Australia
Picado right hand question - video
I had a lesson with another good guitarist tonight, and he told me to practice my picado in another fashion to my teacher. My teacher told me to practice place and rest the next finger on the next note u r playing and the finger that was played stays where it is until the 2nd finger strikes, then the original finger would spring to the next note to be played.
The guitarist tonight told me once u played a note, while the 2nd finger springs to the next note to be played, the first finger that struck the note bounces off the string and kinda hovers beside the finger to be played. He moves it more with his M finger, eg play I on low E and then M on A, when M strikes that happens his I moves to D and the M kinda hovers over G.
how do you guys do it?
On the video, I asked 'in playing' but it should be in practicing and playing.
RE: Picado right hand question - video (in reply to Ricardo)
Agree think the new teacher way works best for ascending scales... honestly, the fact so many people do it so many different ways should tell you that the key is more practice and sticking to a way that works as opposed to keep trying to change the way you do it.
RE: Picado right hand question - video (in reply to HolyEvil)
I practice both ways demonstrated in the first video. i think working on not exchanging fingers forces you to relax between strokes.
On a side note, lately ive noticed that a slightly deeper plant has helped my picado alot. I find i can devote slightly less thought to placement and more to movement. Also liking hard tensions at the moment. TK
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Joined: Nov. 6 2008
From: Sydney, Australia
RE: Picado right hand question - video (in reply to ToddK)
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ORIGINAL: ToddK
On a side note, lately ive noticed that a slightly deeper plant has helped my picado alot. I find i can devote slightly less thought to placement and more to movement. Also liking hard tensions at the moment. TK
Hey Todd, could you elaborate on what is a 'deeper plant'? I understand the pre planting of fingers etc.. but don't understand deeper planting.
RE: Picado right hand question - video (in reply to HolyEvil)
Hard to say, maybe a 1/3 more. Not alot, just enough to feel a bit more secure. I had a tendency for a long time to plant way to close the nail, and had trouble with nail noise when speeding up. I feel like a have a fatter tone now.
Seems such a small detail, but i found myself constantly trying to adjust my contact point with the string. Such a basic, rudimentary thing, but i think it comes from my impatience with changing my technique around. My left hand is so many miles ahead of my right. Frustrating sometimes.
You're right, a slightly longer nail is probably in order.
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RE: Picado right hand question - video (in reply to ToddK)
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Seems such a small detail, but i found myself constantly trying to adjust my contact point with the string. Such a basic, rudimentary thing, but i think it comes from my impatience with changing my technique around. My left hand is so many miles ahead of my right. Frustrating sometimes.
RE: Picado right hand question - video (in reply to ToddK)
Again I would reiterate the very small details get 'worked out on their own'. I am very very far from an expert but picado is one area I managed to improve dramatically in very short order (call it 120bpm to 180+bpm in 6 months) and the main keys for me were not to worry so much about the little details (as long as the main motion is ok), keeping as relaxed as possible (sort of letting gravity do some of the work) and practicing slowly. And even the relaxed part your body sort of just 'learns' on its own.
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RE: Picado right hand question - video (in reply to Ricardo)
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ORIGINAL: Ricardo
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Seems such a small detail, but i found myself constantly trying to adjust my contact point with the string. Such a basic, rudimentary thing, but i think it comes from my impatience with changing my technique around. My left hand is so many miles ahead of my right. Frustrating sometimes.
what's your picado speed now Todd? Richard, does your picado speed very depends on whether you practice? like if you keep practicing, you'll be 180 and if you just keep playing and not doing proper practicing of picado it goes to 170 etc?
RE: Picado right hand question - video (in reply to jg7238)
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Ahhh, Ramzi what happened? You don't like my picado anymore?
Man, those sweeps I believe are much harder to get sounding clean and fast the way you did them. Ergo they were the best part. The picados were great as usual, but the sweeps this time sounded much better than normally.
RE: Picado right hand question - video (in reply to Ricardo)
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200 bpm in 2 years....clock is ticking
hahaha yeah, i remember. i officially admit defeat on that one.
If i were 23 years old or something, im sure things would be different.
I just turned 42 yesterday, and i just dont have that "Guitar Fever" anymore. Thats been replaced with a wife, a special needs stepson who has cerebral palsy and a full time job.
When i have time to play, i wanna have fun, and am not interested in grinding and shedding anymore.
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From: Washington DC
RE: Picado right hand question - video (in reply to ToddK)
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hahaha yeah, i remember. i officially admit defeat on that one.
you still got 2 months!!!! seriously, did you bottom at 175 on a good day like I said?
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Richard, does your picado speed very depends on whether you practice? like if you keep practicing, you'll be 180 and if you just keep playing and not doing proper practicing of picado it goes to 170 etc?
Can't pin it down. Some days I can really do some fast stuff. Like its what I eat or the weather or something. I don't get to practice much at home so I gauge by improvising runs over the drum machine with the rumba band. Couple tunes around 105 bpm I can do bursts or long lines mixed with some pull offs here and there as 32nd notes. That would be 16ths at 210 bpm. I am usually surprised why I can do it somedays, and others I can feel it ain't gonna happen and stick with safer triplet runs. You can just sense it, and when I don't think I can and push it I find the feeling was right and it comes out dirty.
I remember when I got the antonio rey cd and was inspired to do that paco type open string run he does up the neck and the guys in the band were like WTF??? And I was surprised too because after that initial burst of inspiration a few days later I wasn't feelin it anymore. So I don't really know.
I do know that my picking I learned as a teen is different. I can wake up drunk and play at top speed with no major warm up....it is all about the feeling of it. I don't really understand but it is clear that as we get older and start maxing out you DO improve but on much smaller levels.
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From: Sydney, Australia
RE: Picado right hand question - video (in reply to ToddK)
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ORIGINAL: ToddK
I just turned 42 yesterday, and i just dont have that "Guitar Fever" anymore. Thats been replaced with a wife, a special needs stepson who has cerebral palsy and a full time job.
just wait for the belly to set in =) all jokes aside, it's hard to practice when one has someone to take care of, like yourself or Anders.. so kudos to you guys..
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its really quite annoying 
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