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Jim Opfer

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What's everyone playing?

Just as it says, I'm struggling with Tomatito Alegrias from his video, what are you all doing?
Cheers
Jim.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 25 2003 21:47:28

Thomas Whiteley

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RE: What's everyone playing? (in reply to Jim Opfer)

Jim;

There are not enough hours in the day! I do a lot of Diego del Gastor material, Sabicas, some of my own, and a few others.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 26 2003 0:06:46

Florian

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RE: What's everyone playing? (in reply to Jim Opfer)

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I just transcribed a El Viejín tangos falseta than changed the key.

working on transcribing a Ramon Jimenez tangos falseta.

transcribed a Bola farucca intro.

practicing alot.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 26 2003 0:43:51

gerundino63

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RE: What's everyone playing? (in reply to Jim Opfer)

Hi Jim!

I am working on La Lola from Paco Pena, and Zapateado en Re from Sabicas.

This summer, I writed a tremmolo for an Alegrias, and that need some work too, to get it fluid. (can you say that in english?).

And ofcours repeat the things I allready play!

Greetings, Peter.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 26 2003 8:12:54

Ron.M

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RE: What's everyone playing? (in reply to Jim Opfer)

Hi Jim,
I'm just listening to a lot of the younger "traditional" style players and generally trying to improve my thumb work.
I'm trying to develop a "looser" style of playing. Not so uptight.
It's coming slowly, I'll try to post something soon to let you hear what I mean.

Peter....so you're into "La Lola" too?
It's a great number.

I started on resurrecting it a couple of months ago.
Got as far as the intro then got distracted by something else as usual.
Should have it finished by the end of the decade! LOL!

Still got it here at

www.btinternet.com/~flamenco/lalolaintro1.mp3

cheers

Ron

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 26 2003 8:44:11

gerundino63

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RE: What's everyone playing? (in reply to Ron.M)

well, Ron, that is very nice played!

nice to hear that somebody besides Paco Pena plays it too!

It is a tricky song, I had it in musical totation, but I ranslated it a while back in tablature, so, that study (for me) a lot easyer!

greetings, Peter.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 26 2003 9:52:59

sbarnard

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From: Marengo, IL, EE UU

RE: What's everyone playing? (in reply to Jim Opfer)

I've been trying to get down the farrucas in Juan Martín's Toques Flamencos book. I'm about a third of the way through the piece. Maybe by the end of the year I'll know the entire song!

Scott

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 26 2003 13:42:24

TANúñez

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RE: What's everyone playing? (in reply to Jim Opfer)

Hi Jim. I'm working on Moraito's Encuentro vidoe tape. It's probably a little too advanced for me at this point in my playing but to my surprise I'm keeping up so far. This is a really good tape by the way. He also touches on accompanying the cante with Fernando Terremoto. Man does this guy have a voice!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 26 2003 16:20:23

Fergusito

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RE: What's everyone playing? (in reply to Jim Opfer)

Working with a singer - working out some Fandangos and tangos form Morente and Camaron to accompany him

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 26 2003 17:11:27

Jim Opfer

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RE: What's everyone playing? (in reply to Jim Opfer)

It's amazing the range of interest and different styles you're all into. It's time for some more audio posts to complete the picture.
It's a fantastic thing that Flamenco has the power to grip us tightly with so many different fingers.
Look forward to listening to those audios!
Cheers
Jim.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 26 2003 17:22:39

Phil

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From: Rota, Spain

RE: What's everyone playing? (in reply to Jim Opfer)

Last week I started working on Bulerias. See my post "My 1st Bulerias lesson in Jerez" for a detailed description.
Phil

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 26 2003 18:46:07

Paleto

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RE: What's everyone playing? (in reply to Jim Opfer)

I've been working on 2 pieces for ages now, plus a 3rd I've recently started:

1) Gerardo Núñez's alegrías - Queda la sal;

2) Gerardo Núñez's sevillanas - Rincón del Pali;

and

3) Gerardo Núñez's soleá - Soleá, un son eterno.

Despite the fact that not everyone likes Núñez, I do.

The first two are hard as hell. I've got everything in compás, except the second 2 sevillanas, which actually I have largely in compás, but never fail to wait half a beat too long here or there. The second two sevillanas needed chords added, which were supplied by the second guitar in the recording. So I've been working on adding chords to strum within the picados. This has taken a lot of work for me.

Oh yeah, on the alegrías I skipped all the scale runs way at the end, they aren't really worth all the effort to figure them out.

I am also working on the tremolo part of the soleá, but that's going to take some time as my tremolo is in need of a lot of work.

Next will probably be a Riqueni bulería or some Vicente Amigo stuff.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 26 2003 19:54:14

Miguel de Maria

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RE: What's everyone playing? (in reply to Jim Opfer)

Hi guys, I'm back from 5 days in surprisingly sunny and pleasant Seattle. Met the future in-laws for the first time, future mother-in-law told me she preferred my classical guitar pieces to flamenco. yeaachk!

recently got the amazing slow downer and that's a nice program. i recommend it to all of those who don't figure things out by ear. That's a vital skill to develop for a flamenco.

Cheers!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 26 2003 21:28:59

Patrick

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RE: What's everyone playing? (in reply to Jim Opfer)

Michael,

For those not familier with the "Amazing Slow Downer", it's a program that will slow down an audio cd, MP3, Wave and Wma files without changing the pitch. I have just started to play with the demo and it really looks neat for only $40. I think it is going to be a great help.

Here is the web site.

http://www.ronimusic.com/

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 26 2003 22:39:10

Florian

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RE: What's everyone playing? (in reply to Paleto)

Paleto

I love Gerardo !!! love him (<---not gay)

I also like your taste in music.

be sure to post something that u play by him.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 26 2003 23:44:47

Paleto

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RE: What's everyone playing? (in reply to Florian)

Sure, once I get it sounding good..........................................................................

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 27 2003 0:48:19

eslastra

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RE: What's everyone playing? (in reply to Jim Opfer)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jim Opfer

Just as it says, I'm struggling with Tomatito Alegrias from his video, what are you all doing?
Cheers
Jim.

Preparing 'Mantillas de Feria' of Esteban San Lucar for a dance choreography to do in a show sometime early next year. For solo and technique stuff, been poking around with Chicuelo's Alegrias in E from his video. The syncopation in this modern stuff is a killer, but is very interesting once it's in the groove. The tough part is keeping it there. I've got lots of other pieces I'd like to get into more, just not enough time in the day to get to them. Heck, I can't even get a 45 second Tangos clip done for Florian's group Tangos.

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El Craic

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RE: What's everyone playing? (in reply to Jim Opfer)

Hola from Belfast. I have only been playing for 2 yrs or so. I am learning to accompany solea with a dancer here. Solea on speed in other words. And I am back to basics after going to see the doctor (Rafael in Oxford) for a thorough wrist slapping. It was well worth it, I'll go back for another spanking in six months.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 27 2003 13:24:15

Jim Opfer

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RE: What's everyone playing? (in reply to Paleto)

Hi Paleto,
That sounds like a really tough schedule you have there! Have you tried Gerardo's Buleria, I can't remember the name but played in that strange Buleria key half way up the neck at 1 million mph?
Phew...!
Jim.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 27 2003 15:11:30

Jim Opfer

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RE: What's everyone playing? (in reply to Guest)

Andy,
My dancer in Glasgow has a Siguiryas she learned from Felipe de Algeciras, very modern and full of contra. The palmero and I do a section accompanying with walking sticks (Bastons) and that's great fun.
Great stuff, working with a dancer.
Jim.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 27 2003 16:04:02

Paleto

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RE: What's everyone playing? (in reply to Jim Opfer)

There's one called En el arco and I think it's in E flat - is that it? It has some interesting ideas and harmonies but I don't think for the moment it would be worth it.

I tried to choose mostly pieces which had some usable falsetas for dance class. But that would also serve well for solo playing.

The sevillanas are doable, but a lot of work. I started on them 6 months ago and I'm still trying to make them sound good/right with just one guitar. I got a couple ideas this morning for parts, but it still needs work. The transcription is good but too sparse in places and needs some filler chords to keep compás clear.

The primary difficulty I am facing now is that some of the falsetas end on 2 and I need to strum something between that 2 and the next 2 when the next falseta starts. Starting the typical sevillanas strum on 2 won't work even though there are 3 beats to the next falseta, know what I mean?

Hopefully, I'll find a good solution soon.

Any suggestions?

-Anthony

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 27 2003 20:33:28

Florian

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RE: What's everyone playing? (in reply to Jim Opfer)

Andy , after Spain Japan has always been the biggest flamenco place.
I watched a hole company of Japanese singers, guitarists , dancers go to spain and do a flamenco show.

They were so damn good, the sang and spoke in Spainsh and they where greate.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 27 2003 22:04:00

Paleto

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RE: What's everyone playing? (in reply to Jim Opfer)

Good choice. That alegrías has some nice stuff in it.

Anthony

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 27 2003 22:07:38

Jim Opfer

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RE: What's everyone playing? (in reply to Paleto)

Paleto,
Yes! that sounds like it could be the one, En el Arco!
Sevillanas has always been a mystery to me, I've never really got into it and am always confused knowing just when to stop, so I can't offer any suggestions to help solve your 2-2 problem.
Why not post it? I'm sure someone will have a good idea.
Cheers
Jim.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 28 2003 12:49:00

Jim Opfer

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RE: What's everyone playing? (in reply to Thomas Whiteley)

Hi Tom,
Diego del Gastor, lots of great thumb work. right?
I saw Ramon Ruiz (good teacher based in London) demonstrate some really neat and powerful thumb work a few months ago, using the side of the thumb with a type of 'slap' motion that he had perfected to great effect.
Cheers
Jim.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 28 2003 12:52:57

Jim Opfer

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RE: What's everyone playing? (in reply to Florian)

Florian,

"I just transcribed a El Viejín tangos falseta than changed the key.
working on transcribing a Ramon Jimenez tangos falseta.
transcribed a Bola farucca intro."

That's really advanced stuff you've taken on there, you'll need to be practising a lot to keep that going!
Cheers
Jim.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 28 2003 12:56:02

Jim Opfer

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RE: What's everyone playing? (in reply to gerundino63)

Peter,
As Ron says, La Lola's a great number and Zapateado en Re is a real classic.
Good luck and power to your fingers.
Cheers
Jim.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 28 2003 12:58:34

Jim Opfer

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RE: What's everyone playing? (in reply to Ron.M)

Hey Ron,
I've just listened again to your La Lola, having read your reply to Peter. I have to say it's quite fantastic! I thought I was listening to Paco's record. You've got it spot on and the quality of your sound is absolutely perfect.
Well done, that man up North.
Cheers
Jim.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 28 2003 13:03:12

Jim Opfer

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RE: What's everyone playing? (in reply to TANúñez)

El Zurdo,
I've got that one, I'm in two minds about Moraito, I know everyone keeps saying he's fantastic and a true modern maestro in the tradition of Jerez, but he leaves me a bit cold, I can't put my finger on it, just something to do with his melody or might just be his sound, I don't know?
Having said that, you've picked some really tricky material there to study and I'm sure it'll really build great technique.
Cheers
Jim.

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