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duende

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Joined: Dec. 15 2003
From: Sweden

HI. I found a dancer!!!

Hi. I found a dancer!! She hasen´t danced flamenco for about 10 years but she teaches some
rumbas and sevillana stuff. She wants to get together and make some Alegrias and Solea.
I tell you how it goes, Im seeing her this thursday

Henrik

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 29 2005 11:59:50

antonio

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Joined: Jan. 10 2005
From: Portugal

RE: HI. I found a dancer!!! (in reply to duende)

Good for you Henrik,

I am glad that you found a way to apply all ( put into practice

) your knowledge of flamenco .
I don't think you need but, put your metronome running all day long

....please tell us how it was.
Regards
Antonio

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 29 2005 13:49:31

duende

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From: Sweden

RE: HI. I found a dancer!!! (in reply to antonio)

what is the basic accompaniment for solea?
Without a singer.

Henrik

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 29 2005 13:56:26

Jim Opfer

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Joined: Jul. 19 2003
From: Glasgow, Scotland.

RE: HI. I found a dancer!!! (in reply to duende)

quote:

She wants to get together and make some

........?

Read it too fast and felt sure you wrote 'babies'

Ah ha!

That's great news, not your normal silky falsetas, just stick to rachao and chords.
Look forward to hearing how it goes.
Next thing will be gigs.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 29 2005 14:00:38

duende

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From: Sweden

RE: HI. I found a dancer!!! (in reply to duende)

hold yer horses I haven´t seen what she looks like yet!!

sorry about the male jokes

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 29 2005 15:56:03

gerundino63

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From: The Netherlands

RE: HI. I found a dancer!!! (in reply to duende)

Hi Henrik!

If you do solea with a dancer, make sure you do it really really slow.

We ( guitarists) are used to do it fast in their perspective.

Perhaps try to practice to slowdown it, so you get used to it a little.

Good luck thursday, it is a new chapter in your flamenco live!

Peter

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 29 2005 17:12:38

duende

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From: Sweden

RE: HI. I found a dancer!!! (in reply to gerundino63)

Thank you Peter.
I asked her today if she danced solea so awfuly slow

I keep playing along with my solo compas cd. They do it realy slow on that one. Hey theres one for you Jim!! "they do it realy slow"

Henrik

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 29 2005 17:28:58

Escribano

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From: England, living in Italy

RE: HI. I found a dancer!!! (in reply to duende)

quote:

They do it realy slow on that one

Tell me about it, it's like 70 bpm!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 29 2005 18:04:48

duende

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From: Sweden

RE: HI. I found a dancer!!! (in reply to Escribano)

I have trouble with the verse. It´s very easy to be in a hurry

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Don't give up...
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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 29 2005 19:48:05

Miguel de Maria

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From: Phoenix, AZ

RE: HI. I found a dancer!!! (in reply to duende)

Henrik,

GREAT!!!!!!!

Henrik el Suedo.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 29 2005 21:38:04

Ron.M

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Joined: Jul. 7 2003
From: Scotland

RE: HI. I found a dancer!!! (in reply to Miguel de Maria)

Umm, Mike...I think that should be "Sueco"

Still...it's only Europe....so it doesn't really matter

And anyway it's only a letter of a difference....

Like Miguel de Arikona... or Moria or Mariu

cheers

Ron (from ScotchLand)

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 29 2005 21:54:44

Guest

RE: HI. I found a dancer!!! (in reply to duende)

Hi Ron.

I suppuse that you know what ron means in spanish...... Rum

Henrik. Great. Is she from Jönkjöping as well? There are some video/DVD's on the market for dancers. They'll give you an idea of the structure of a palo, and some ideas of what to play. They are made for dancers though, so it can seem a bit pricy (18 - 20 euros each)
Ask your dancer if she has some of these videos/dvd's.

Happy Rasgueado

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 30 2005 7:57:38

Ron.M

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From: Scotland

RE: HI. I found a dancer!!! (in reply to Guest)

Yeah Anders,
Folk in Spain always used to smile when I told them my name.

I suppose I could call myself El Cubalibre!

cheers

Ron

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 30 2005 8:48:46

duende

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From: Sweden

RE: HI. I found a dancer!!! (in reply to Guest)

Anders.
She´s from Finland but she has lived in sweden since she was very young. Now she lives in jönköping. She was very happy and excited when i called her. I forgot to ask her for DVD´s

I belive she went to the carmen de las cuevas in Granada. Then she danced with some
spanish company but i can´t remember the name.

can´t wait untill tomorrow!!!

Henrik

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Don't give up...
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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 30 2005 9:49:55

Jon Boyes

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RE: HI. I found a dancer!!! (in reply to duende)

Great news, H. You will have a blast I am sure.

Please post your experiences here, as a fellow rookie baile accompanist I'd be glad to share stuff with you.

Jon

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 30 2005 9:54:28

duende

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From: Sweden

RE: HI. I found a dancer!!! (in reply to Jon Boyes)

How do you play solea jon? I nead some basic idea to follow. Can i play any falseta i like in the place of the singing?

Henrik

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This is hard stuff!
Don't give up...
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Enjoy the ray of sunshine that comes with every new step in knowledge.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 30 2005 9:59:15

Jon Boyes

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RE: HI. I found a dancer!!! (in reply to duende)

Henrik, I haven't done Solea with Mercedes yet, so I don't know how it would work with just guitar and dancer. She didn't seem that keen when I mentioned it, not sure why, might be that she wouldn't want to do it without a singer, I don't know.

A couple of things I've picked up:

-accompanying dance IS a lot slower than solo guitar palos a lot of the time - the solo compas CDs are good indicators of the tempo you need.

-All rhythm guitar can get boring, and strong melodies are just as important as strong compas for the dancer to follow, esp if you don't have a singer, so you will need some falsetas but don't play anything too whacky. I go for safe trad stuff as its more likely to be recognised.

-ultimately an experienced accompanist will follow the dancer, but to kick things off we do it the other way round which makes sense to me. It just means more choreographing and playing things in a set way. Not as authentic as the real thing, but hey you have to start somewhere

.

HTH.

Jon

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 30 2005 10:23:34

duende

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RE: HI. I found a dancer!!! (in reply to Jon Boyes)

zankz Jon

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Enjoy the ray of sunshine that comes with every new step in knowledge.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 30 2005 10:37:52

Guest

RE: HI. I found a dancer!!! (in reply to duende)

Henrik.

I haven't worked much with baile and only with Alegrias.

You have to learn the structure of the dance. Entradas, silencio, escobilla, llamada etc. Then you can start using some falsetas. But they ARE NOT IMPORTANT. Ask the dancer to tell you how many compas's a certain part is. The problem is that sometimes they dont know!!!! They just dance, and its up to you, the dog, to follow and do the counting

In alegrias you should learn some standard silencio and escobilla, because that's what they want for a start. Also be prepared to go up and down in tempo a lot, especially in Soleá. It's sometimes so slow that your falsetas are worth ****. In general, solo falsetas are not really worth anything.

So now you have something to concentrate on. No time for being melancolic.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 30 2005 11:16:27

duende

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RE: HI. I found a dancer!!! (in reply to Guest)

I thought solea was/is very melancholy

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This is hard stuff!
Don't give up...
And don't make it a race.
Enjoy the ray of sunshine that comes with every new step in knowledge.

RON

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 30 2005 13:14:29