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duende -> HI. I found a dancer!!! (Mar. 29 2005 11:59:50)

Hi. I found a dancer!! She hasen´t danced flamenco for about 10 years but she teaches some
rumbas and sevillana stuff. She wants to get together and make some Alegrias and Solea.
I tell you how it goes, Im seeing her this thursday
[:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]

Henrik



antonio -> RE: HI. I found a dancer!!! (Mar. 29 2005 13:49:31)

[:)][:)][:)]Good for you Henrik,

I am glad that you found a way to apply all ( put into practice[sm=Smiley Guitar.gif]) your knowledge of flamenco .
I don't think you need but, put your metronome running all day long[;)]....please tell us how it was.
Regards
Antonio



duende -> RE: HI. I found a dancer!!! (Mar. 29 2005 13:56:26)

what is the basic accompaniment for solea?
Without a singer.

Henrik



Jim Opfer -> RE: HI. I found a dancer!!! (Mar. 29 2005 14:00:38)

quote:

She wants to get together and make some
........?

Read it too fast and felt sure you wrote 'babies'

Ah ha!

That's great news, not your normal silky falsetas, just stick to rachao and chords.
Look forward to hearing how it goes.
Next thing will be gigs.



duende -> RE: HI. I found a dancer!!! (Mar. 29 2005 15:56:03)

hold yer horses I haven´t seen what she looks like yet!![:D][:D][:D]

sorry about the male jokes[8D]



gerundino63 -> RE: HI. I found a dancer!!! (Mar. 29 2005 17:12:38)

Hi Henrik!

If you do solea with a dancer, make sure you do it really really slow.

We ( guitarists) are used to do it fast in their perspective.

Perhaps try to practice to slowdown it, so you get used to it a little.

Good luck thursday, it is a new chapter in your flamenco live!

Peter



duende -> RE: HI. I found a dancer!!! (Mar. 29 2005 17:28:58)

Thank you Peter.
I asked her today if she danced solea so awfuly slow[:D] I keep playing along with my solo compas cd. They do it realy slow on that one. Hey theres one for you Jim!! "they do it realy slow"[;)]

Henrik



Escribano -> RE: HI. I found a dancer!!! (Mar. 29 2005 18:04:48)

quote:

They do it realy slow on that one


Tell me about it, it's like 70 bpm!



duende -> RE: HI. I found a dancer!!! (Mar. 29 2005 19:48:05)

I have trouble with the verse. It´s very easy to be in a hurry[:)]



Miguel de Maria -> RE: HI. I found a dancer!!! (Mar. 29 2005 21:38:04)

Henrik,

GREAT!!!!!!!

Henrik el Suedo.



Ron.M -> RE: HI. I found a dancer!!! (Mar. 29 2005 21:54:44)

Umm, Mike...I think that should be "Sueco"

Still...it's only Europe....so it doesn't really matter [;)]

And anyway it's only a letter of a difference....

Like Miguel de Arikona... or Moria or Mariu

[:D][:D]


cheers

Ron (from ScotchLand)



Guest -> RE: HI. I found a dancer!!! (Mar. 30 2005 7:57:38)

Hi Ron.

I suppuse that you know what ron means in spanish...... Rum

Henrik. Great. Is she from Jönkjöping as well? There are some video/DVD's on the market for dancers. They'll give you an idea of the structure of a palo, and some ideas of what to play. They are made for dancers though, so it can seem a bit pricy (18 - 20 euros each)
Ask your dancer if she has some of these videos/dvd's.

Happy Rasgueado[:D]



Ron.M -> RE: HI. I found a dancer!!! (Mar. 30 2005 8:48:46)

Yeah Anders,
Folk in Spain always used to smile when I told them my name. [:D]

I suppose I could call myself El Cubalibre!

cheers

Ron



duende -> RE: HI. I found a dancer!!! (Mar. 30 2005 9:49:55)

Anders.
She´s from Finland but she has lived in sweden since she was very young. Now she lives in jönköping. She was very happy and excited when i called her. I forgot to ask her for DVD´s

I belive she went to the carmen de las cuevas in Granada. Then she danced with some
spanish company but i can´t remember the name.

can´t wait untill tomorrow!!![:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]

Henrik



Jon Boyes -> RE: HI. I found a dancer!!! (Mar. 30 2005 9:54:28)

Great news, H. You will have a blast I am sure.

Please post your experiences here, as a fellow rookie baile accompanist I'd be glad to share stuff with you.

Jon



duende -> RE: HI. I found a dancer!!! (Mar. 30 2005 9:59:15)

How do you play solea jon? I nead some basic idea to follow. Can i play any falseta i like in the place of the singing?

Henrik



Jon Boyes -> RE: HI. I found a dancer!!! (Mar. 30 2005 10:23:34)

Henrik, I haven't done Solea with Mercedes yet, so I don't know how it would work with just guitar and dancer. She didn't seem that keen when I mentioned it, not sure why, might be that she wouldn't want to do it without a singer, I don't know.

A couple of things I've picked up:

-accompanying dance IS a lot slower than solo guitar palos a lot of the time - the solo compas CDs are good indicators of the tempo you need.

-All rhythm guitar can get boring, and strong melodies are just as important as strong compas for the dancer to follow, esp if you don't have a singer, so you will need some falsetas but don't play anything too whacky. I go for safe trad stuff as its more likely to be recognised.

-ultimately an experienced accompanist will follow the dancer, but to kick things off we do it the other way round which makes sense to me. It just means more choreographing and playing things in a set way. Not as authentic as the real thing, but hey you have to start somewhere [:)].

HTH.

Jon



duende -> RE: HI. I found a dancer!!! (Mar. 30 2005 10:37:52)

zankz Jon[:)]



Guest -> RE: HI. I found a dancer!!! (Mar. 30 2005 11:16:27)

Henrik.

I haven't worked much with baile and only with Alegrias.

You have to learn the structure of the dance. Entradas, silencio, escobilla, llamada etc. Then you can start using some falsetas. But they ARE NOT IMPORTANT. Ask the dancer to tell you how many compas's a certain part is. The problem is that sometimes they dont know!!!! They just dance, and its up to you, the dog, to follow and do the counting[:-]

In alegrias you should learn some standard silencio and escobilla, because that's what they want for a start. Also be prepared to go up and down in tempo a lot, especially in Soleá. It's sometimes so slow that your falsetas are worth ****. In general, solo falsetas are not really worth anything.

So now you have something to concentrate on. No time for being melancolic.[:D]



duende -> RE: HI. I found a dancer!!! (Mar. 30 2005 13:14:29)

I thought solea was/is very melancholy [;)]



sorin popovici -> RE: HI. I found a dancer!!! (Mar. 30 2005 13:30:10)

Glad to hear u found somebody to work with.Goodluck tomorrow and
tell us how it went !



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