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Patrick

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Carlos Montoya guitars for sale 

Here’s something interesting. Christie’s auction house has two of old Carlos guitars up for sale. Listed are his Arcangel Fernandez and his Barbero.

http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/lot_details.aspx?from=searchresults&intObjectID=5356759&sid=7fb68f0f-153c-4a31-bcde-49e5bc43feff

http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/lot_details.aspx?from=searchresults&intObjectID=5356760&sid=7fb68f0f-153c-4a31-bcde-49e5bc43feff
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nealf

 

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RE: Carlos Montoya guitars for sale (in reply to Patrick

For those that have the deep pockets keep in mind that you also have to pay a "buyers premium" to Christies which is calculated as 25% of the winning bid.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 10 2010 0:06:20
 
a_arnold

 

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RE: Carlos Montoya guitars for sale (in reply to Patrick

The Reyes sold for about $14 k -- way above estimate.
The Barbero sold for the same, then another Barbero (not owned by Montoya) sold for $30k.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 10 2010 22:23:13
 
Doitsujin

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RE: Carlos Montoya guitars for sale (in reply to Patrick

lol.... crazy prices! Why is no museum interested to keep the culture??
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Ramon Amira

 

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RE: Carlos Montoya guitars for sale (in reply to Doitsujin

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Why is no museum interested to keep the culture??


A good question. The Metropolitan Museum of Art here in New York has an extensive collection of musical instruments, and among them is one or two of Segovia's guitars – I think a Ramirez and a Hauser.

Whatever anyone may think or say about Montoya's playing, there is certainly no denying that he was an important and influential figure in the history of flamenco. And of course there are the instruments – a vintage Reyes or Fernandez, and a Barbero. They deserve a place in the collection of some major museum.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 10 2010 23:34:06
 
HemeolaMan

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RE: Carlos Montoya guitars for sale (in reply to Patrick

personally i think they deserve to be played and studied. not gawked at by uninformed visitors.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 11 2010 2:42:40
 
Ramon Amira

 

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RE: Carlos Montoya guitars for sale (in reply to Patrick

There are other Reyes and Barbero guitars that are already played and studied. Sometimes when an instrument has historical significance, as these do, a museum is a perfectly appropriate place for them.

And looking at a beautiful instrument does not constitute "gawking," nor is every museum visitor "uninformed." Furthermore, one of the purposes of a museum is precisely to inform.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 11 2010 3:43:52
 
Doitsujin

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RE: Carlos Montoya guitars for sale (in reply to Patrick

I think the same that they should be kept in a museum for coming generations.


At the moment it seems weird not to use them anymore..because they were made to be used. But Im 100% sure... in future there will be nothing compareable like now. These guitar should be saved. If you use them, they break...its just a question of time. And restoration is fake IMO.
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Ron.M

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RE: Carlos Montoya guitars for sale (in reply to Ramon Amira

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And looking at a beautiful instrument does not constitute "gawking,"


It is when you don't have the money to buy it!
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