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gerundino63
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Joined: Jul. 11 2003
From: The Netherlands
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 RE: Charging for gigs (in reply to akatune)
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A big step to print a card!
Congratulated!
If you ask money for what you do, you are a pro.
Act like one, if you want to be taken serious.
Ask enough money otherwice you play for a drink and a meal on every occasion.
Do not ask too much, that makes you unemployed 
Around 130-170 euro ( 130 for the midweek, 170 for the weekend) an hour.
An hour is two sessions of 25 min. and a brake for 10 min.
This way you can play for a long time and you can use the thirth hour some of stuff you did in the first hour.
For weddings and companys you can ask more, companys are willing mostly to pay around 350 euo so you can ask how long they need you,and make the price on 350 euro
( If you ask 750 euro or so the mostly aspect a band or a dancer too)
Weddings can be around 600, 750, for a few hours.
Ask if possible the money in front of your gig, at the end of the evening you do not have to chase a drunken groome or mother in law for money
Also say in front you play in sessions, than you have no problem with that.
The prices include no tax.
Ofcourse this is just a average price setting.
You can adapt the price, for instance if you like the gig, or the gig is good for your name or they are willing to take you a few times more in the future....
Good luck and have fun!
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Date Jul. 27 2010 7:39:48
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beno
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From: Hungary
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RE: Charging for gigs (in reply to akatune)
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On the other hand it's strongly depends on where You live.... No matter how professional You act, in Hungary You wouldn't get that much.... Unless you're a very-well-known musician, which is not the case for any instrumentalist.
I have a gipsy friend with lots of experience in almost every kind of music, who can play nearly anything you ask him for (well not that special thing like flamenco, but any jazz, latin, standards, evergreens, hungarian gipsy music, pop, music for weddings really anything, any tune you sing-for the very first time, and so on...) but still stuggle to get on...
My other friend - who I organize concerts for- is a great guitarist, won several international competitions in classical music AND jazz (including the prestigous Montreaux) just got into the finals of the 'Six string theory' competition. That was a dream for thousands of guitarist, and He had no money to travel to the U.S. to take part in it...
It depends on...
So all I'd like to say is: if You have the chance, to charge for Your playing, PLEASE DO SO!
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Date Jul. 29 2010 8:40:36
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Mark2
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From: San Francisco
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RE: Charging for gigs (in reply to akatune)
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I would expect a solo guitar player to be able to play some music that sounds good. That's it.
If he's a flamenco player, I'd expect him to play some of the forms in compas. Playing solo gigs in restaurants, etc. is different than playing "flamenco" IMO. If you go into a restaurant and play solea, buleria, sig, etc, you are not going to be as interesting to an American audience than if you mix it up with a few well known classical numbers and more commercial flamenco related stuff like lorca tunes, sevillanas, etc.
For this kind of work, being able to accompany a dancer or singer really doesn't matter, unless of course a dancer or singer wander in, and you are billing yourself as a flamenco guitarist, or even simply playing flamenco. You could find yourself in an embarassing situation.
I know this from personal experience, as I did a lot of solo gigs before I learned to play for dancers. People involved with the art will expect you to know how to play for dancers and singers if your performing flamenco. You don't want to be in a Spanish bar when a guy from Spain walks in and starts singing and you have no clue. Not that that should stop you from doing your thing, but be aware.
For me, once I focused on playing for dance, I let the solo act slip, and reached a point where I didn't enjoy it, despite the money. It's a different gig. There are guys who can spend enough time to be good at both, but it's tough if your also working a day gig.
Your in the same area as I am, and I've found that privates start at 300.00 for two -three sets and can go up considerably from there. As far as what's a professional, that's something that people will have very different opinions on, so don't worry about being a "pro" or not, just play and sound the very best you can.
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Date Jul. 30 2010 23:19:42
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But i would also do gigs for free, and also did, because you dont get often the opportunity to get stage experience. Its ok i think if you do one gig every couple of months for free (as amateur). A weekly gig is surely something different and should be charged under normal "market" conditions, just like a pro would take (what other people mentioned here). I mean it depends, if theres no money in question you could decline a gig, but you can also use this as experience. 