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XXX

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RE: La Bella 820B (in reply to sean65

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ORIGINAL: sean65
On one hand they feel pretty good and the trebles have a fair amount of spank when played hard but make my guitar sound brittle.


Yes these strings are famous for that, and that is one reason i like them. In fact i am searching for the maximum of brittleness on my guitar and the Alabastro strings made by Aquila are even better than LaBella for that purpose. (only talking about trebles)
Well after 7 years of guitar playing i finally found a string set that i have nothing to compain about. Its unbelievable.
And it took me 5 years to get the right nail shape.
And probably will take 20 years until im happy with my techniques aarrgggg.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 10 2010 3:24:22
 
sean65

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RE: La Bella 820B (in reply to sean65

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And it took me 5 years to get the right nail shape.


LOL,.... yeah man, that's another thing that changes the sound. I've noticed if my nails grow just a bit too long the sound is too trebly.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 10 2010 8:07:14
 
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RE: La Bella 820B (in reply to sean65

Sabicas used labella golden trebles and savarez red card bass. For what it's worth. I have several old programmes from his concerts, and several mention what guitar(s) and strings he is using. In every case, that was his choice. Of course that was the late 1960's, before a lot of the newer strings were available.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 17 2010 18:08:51

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RE: La Bella 820B (in reply to XXX

Reviving this thread to say, i just put some La Bella 2001 flamenco black
trebles on my guitar, and had to take them right back off.

They were all intonating really flat. Its too bad, cause i like the feel and
bright spanky tone.

But i knew i'd be taking that chance. I dont think i like them enough to
intonate the guitar exclusively for them.

Anyway, i just replaced them with some Luthier medium tension trebles.
Im liking them alot so far, but they have'nt even stretched in yet, but they
intonate perfectly. In fact, even better than my standard D'addario pro arte
which is what i intonated the guitar for.

Next im gonna try some Saverez Alliance medium tension next. 50 bucks
says the high E won't intonate.

I hate that. Sometimes i want something different for trebles, but man, they
never want to tune up!

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 17 2011 2:40:31
 
ArtZumer

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RE: La Bella 820B (in reply to XXX

Rookie question here:
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But i knew i'd be taking that chance. I dont think i like them enough to intonate the guitar exclusively for them.

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In fact, even better than my standard D'addario pro arte
which is what i intonated the guitar for


People intonate flamenco guitars for particular strings? How?

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 17 2011 3:09:52

ToddK

 

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RE: La Bella 820B (in reply to ArtZumer

Not sure what about that is not obvious.

Say you buy a guitar, and it comes with D'addario strings on it.
They play perfectly in tune, but you decide
you dont like them.

You try some other strings out, and decide you really like the sound of La Bella flamenca negra trebles, but they dont intonate.

Well, first, you might buy another set to make sure you dont have a bad set.

If they still dont intonate, then you must file the saddle appropriately for
these strings, obviously, or they will not play in tune.

That's all fine and good. Not a big deal to do that, especially if you're skilled
and have the tools to do it yourself, or have a good luthier near by.

But if not, its not so convienient to have to do all that. And if you decide you
want to return to the D'addario's, you'll have to do it all again.

you might being saying to yourself, "Why do strings randomly not tune up on
certain guitars??"

Well, GREAT QUESTION. Who knows. Its related to diameter and density of the string itself. I would imagine its a complicated answer.

Carbon strings are notorious for this behaviour because they're generally much smaller in diameter than plain nylon, and usually more dense.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 17 2011 3:41:17
 
tele

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RE: La Bella 820B (in reply to sean65

I just put a set of 820b trebles on my guitar and they all intonate sharp. Does anyone else experience this problem and does it go away after a while(I put them on like one hour ago) or does it stay like that?

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 21 2012 17:28:58
 
Shawn Brock

 

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RE: La Bella 820B (in reply to XXX

I had good luck with the 2001 on some classical guitars, and even like the sound of the 2001 flamencos. Its just to bad that the 2001 flamencos still aren't made correctly, don't play in tune, and aren't as improved as they say they are. As for 820s for me, forget about it. By the time they started sounding right on my guitar, it was time for a new set.

I still say that a guitar has to adapt when you change brands of string. It takes some time for adjustment for both instrument and player. I'll never put another set of La Bella on a flamenco guitar though, or at least I don't think I will.
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