Welcome to one of the most active flamenco sites on the Internet. Guests can read most posts but if you want to participate click here to register.
This site is dedicated to the memory of Paco de Lucía, Ron Mitchell, Guy Williams, Linda Elvira, Philip John Lee, Craig Eros, Ben Woods, David Serva and Tom Blackshear who went ahead of us.
We receive 12,200 visitors a month from 200 countries and 1.7 million page impressions a year. To advertise on this site please contact us.
RE: Grisha tries out a Conde Felipe ... (in reply to Arash)
i dont have sound because i lend my speakers But i can see that he is playing an Alegrias right? Hey i think i know that ending :D I have always wanted to hear Grisha on a flamenco guitar!
Posts: 1025
Joined: Oct. 14 2009
From: New York City
RE: Grisha tries out a Conde Felipe ... (in reply to Arash)
Well, to me the Reyes Hijo – especially in "Part One" – was easily the best.
I've been touting Cordoba guitars on this forum, and have been recommending them to my students. I have never had a chance to play the 45F, but for someone on a budget, I think they would be hard pressed to find a better sounding guitar for that price.
Posts: 4530
Joined: Aug. 9 2006
From: Iran (living in Germany)
RE: Grisha tries out a Conde Felipe ... (in reply to Arash)
both of course
---
re. reyes: don't know but the reyes sounds a bit dull to me (specially the trebles), no singing trebles. but maybe thats just me. seams like grisha liked the reyes most too ? because he played 3 video parts, and conde just got 1 video
RE: Grisha tries out a Conde Felipe ... (in reply to Arash)
Id take the Ramirez. Maybe if the Reyes would have been a blanca, i would have preferred that over the Ramirez. And the Conde over the Reyes if that had been a blanca
Posts: 302
Joined: May 27 2005
From: Zürich, Switzerland
RE: Grisha tries out a Conde Felipe ... (in reply to Arash)
The Ramirez sounded best to me, but it's hard to say if all guitars were recorded the same way (same distance, same microphones etc..) Some guitars had new strings on it such as the Reyes and the Conde and i found them to sound too "chillona" but that was just my impression.
Posts: 1025
Joined: Oct. 14 2009
From: New York City
RE: Grisha tries out a Conde Felipe ... (in reply to Arash)
Guitar sounds fantastic.
The 1890 Torres that is.
But I'm a little puzzled. It was my understanding that Torres built guitars in two distinct periods, the earlier one being his best. I have read that in the later era he more or less slapped them together (for him) and just kind of did it for friends etc., and that the later era guitars were not necessarily very good, and nowhere near the quality of the early ones. Yet if this is an 1890 it is well into the late era, in fact not much before his death, and yet this guitar sounds great, rich bass, sweet treble. I really don't understand it, except maybe don't believe everything you read.
RE: Grisha tries out a Conde Felipe ... (in reply to Arash)
yeah I liked the Ramirez too. I'm partial to blancas. And it's probably 1/5 the price of the Reyes and Conde It just didn't seem as responsive the other 2 though.
Mike, that tangos is "La Cañada" by Paco. It's on his Siroco album.
RE: Grisha tries out a Conde Felipe ... (in reply to Ramon Amira)
Always a great pleasure to see Grisha in action.
(I think 50% of his brilliant performance is what's going on in his mind, as well as his fantastic technical execution.)
If anything, I liked the Cordoba 45F better than ANY of them.
Was slightly duller, but had more control and balance overall IMO.
So there!
cheers,
Ron
(BTW...If you are into dead planks, I have a Ramirez student guitar sitting in my cupboard that sounds 100 times better than that Torres if anybody wants to make me an offer. )
Posts: 4530
Joined: Aug. 9 2006
From: Iran (living in Germany)
RE: Grisha tries out a Conde Felipe ... (in reply to XXX)
quote:
ORIGINAL: Deniz
Id take the Ramirez. Maybe if the Reyes would have been a blanca, i would have preferred that over the Ramirez. And the Conde over the Reyes if that had been a blanca
blanca fetishist !
but if you close your eyes and don't look at back and sides and don't read the description,,,, the conde was the most "blanca" of the negras imo :-) , no ?
maybe because Koa is not so dark as palisanto and more like cypress? haha....
but interesting that everyone prefers something different......we got votes for all....except "poor" tedoro perez, which received no votes (was nice too, but compared to others, not outstanding)
but you are right, it also depends on strings, distance to MIC, etc...
now the question is, which guitar had the best playability ? thats the question which only grisha can answer, if he should stop by !
Posts: 1025
Joined: Oct. 14 2009
From: New York City
RE: Grisha tries out a Conde Felipe ... (in reply to Ron.M)
quote:
(BTW...If you are into dead planks, I have a Ramirez student guitar sitting in my cupboard that sounds 100 times better than that Torres if anybody wants to make me an offer. )
Take another listen to the quotation from "Aranjuez." That bass sounds mighty good to me.
Posts: 4530
Joined: Aug. 9 2006
From: Iran (living in Germany)
RE: Grisha tries out a Conde Felipe ... (in reply to Ron.M)
quote:
ORIGINAL: Ron.M
(BTW...If you are into dead planks, I have a Ramirez student guitar sitting in my cupboard that sounds 100 times better than that Torres if anybody wants to make me an offer. )
i will buy it from you in 2089 (or my son will buy it from your daughter)
Posts: 1025
Joined: Oct. 14 2009
From: New York City
RE: Grisha tries out a Conde Felipe ... (in reply to Arash)
quote:
now the question is, which guitar had the best playability ?
I agree with you there. They're all very good sounding guitars, and as we can see from the comments, much depends on individual taste and preference with respect to sound, but playability will always be my determining factor when buying a guitar and having to choose from a number of excellent guitars.