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AntonioM

 

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RE: La Barossa out of tune? (in reply to Arash

I lecture on flamenco at a master class for classical guitarists once a semester at a local university. If I were to sit opposite this young man and give him advice, I would say: "Young man, you have a lot of talent. Your technique is very good. However, you must pay more attention to tunning your guitar each and every time you play. (I could not play anything, even for myself, if my guitar was out of tune ).

I would also tell him to play with more feeling. You must play from the heart with more emotion. When you feel this emotion, you must transmit it to those listening to you buy playing with more sensitivity, shadding, and presence.

I think this young man was playing mechanically and his mind was somewhere else. We change with age. As we get older, our life experiences, especially suffering, plays a part in our emotions and how we relate to things. We become more sensitive.

I personally did not like the golpeador on his guitar. It is a huge, thick looking, one piece of white plastic, instead of a smaller 2 piece tap plate. It seems to cover more than half of his soundboad. I wonder what the guitar would sound like without that huge piece of plastic dampening and absorbing the vibrations of his instrument. My guitars are French polished.

This young man is a diamond in the rough. He has a very nice technique and a huge potential to be a first class guitarist, which I am sure, will come with age and maturity. Just paying a little more attention to tunning would have greatly improved this performance

We guitarists owe it to our public to be the best we can be.

Beethoven once said:

"MUSIC IS THE LANGUAGE OF GOD. WE MUSICIANS ARE CLOSER TO HIM THAN ANYONE CAN BE. WE HEAR HIS VOICE AND THROUGH OUR INSTRUMENTS, PASS IT ON TO OTHERS".
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Taranto

 

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RE: La Barossa out of tune? (in reply to AntonioM)1 votes

quote:

Beethoven once said:

"MUSIC IS THE LANGUAGE OF GOD. WE MUSICIANS ARE CLOSER TO HIM THAN ANYONE CAN BE. WE HEAR HIS VOICE AND THROUGH OUR INSTRUMENTS, PASS IT ON TO OTHERS".


In other words the guy besides being deaf was mental too.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 9 2009 7:07:27
 
AntonioM

 

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RE: La Barossa out of tune? (in reply to AntonioM

I find your remark about Beethoven, whom many feel was the greatest composer who ever lived, very offensive. Yes he went deaf, but he wrote his greatest work, the Eroica, while being deaf.

When you say he was mental, I am sure you were referring to his reference of God in the quote he made. I think this was your real reason to put him down, since it was his belief in a God that you were insulting.

I spent the weekend gathering information, finding sites of interest, and sources I came upon in my 50 plus years as a guitarist. I planned on making many posts to this forum. However, I now chose to leave this forum since I am too sensitive to such insulting negative remarks.
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Arash

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RE: La Barossa out of tune? (in reply to AntonioM

I like Beethovens comment, because after reading it, i feel like a prophet now

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Taranto

 

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RE: La Barossa out of tune? (in reply to AntonioM)1 votes

No Antonio dear, I didn't try to put him down. I admire him and love his music (at least the ones I understand), after all he is the first one who composed for the sake of the composition and wasn't led by (economically dependent on) either the church or the royal family.

God wasn't the reason for what I wrote, rather that god's language is music and he talks to musician and musicians are closest to him.

I used an extreme word "mental" but didn't mean literally mental. It was more of a tongue-in-cheek remark.

Anyway I apologize.
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Ailsa

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RE: La Barossa out of tune? (in reply to AntonioM

Antonio you have contributed a great deal to this Foro, and I hope that in the past few days you have seen that people here appreciate your knowledge and experience. Taranto has apologised for his remark, which sounds as if it was done quickly without thinking it through. Please do not leave.

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Ron.M

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RE: La Barossa out of tune? (in reply to Ailsa)1 votes

Yeah Antonio,

I agree with Ailsa.

There is quite q lot of banter and tongue in cheek stuff goes on here, but really a lot of it is just folk trying to be funny, not offensive.

A lot of these young whippersnappers irk me at times, but I just ignore it mostly as the purpose of the comments are mainly to amuse the other whippersnappers.

Oh no!

Now I've insulted the whippersnappers!

A thousand humble apologies.


cheers,

Ron
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bursche

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RE: La Barossa out of tune? (in reply to cathulu

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So are you saying you are capable of it now? Love to hear it - go for it...


My god, no...
But maybe good enough to give it a try, don't know.
First of all I'll have to finish (finish...HA, joke) working on Vicente's Alegría Maestro Sanlúcar - It's hard enough.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 9 2009 11:53:58
 
Taranto

 

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RE: La Barossa out of tune? (in reply to Ailsa)1 votes

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Taranto has apologised for his remark, which sounds as if it was done quickly without thinking it through.

Right, furthermore I was a bit upset about the unfair nature of god's relationship with musicians. He talks to some of them a lot more than some others. Hey he hasn't said a word to me ever! and to Ron all he has said is "woody wood pecker". [roflol]
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