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Stu

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Quick Bulerias Question

real quick one...can/do bulerias falsetas ever start on 1??

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 6 2009 13:47:58

takitaka

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RE: Quick Bulerias Question (in reply to Stu)

yes

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 6 2009 13:55:29

Stu

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RE: Quick Bulerias Question (in reply to takitaka)

thanks takitaka.......

silly question really, I was just gonna delete this.
just as i wrote it i re read one of my books stating that very fact.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 6 2009 13:58:52

Ricardo

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RE: Quick Bulerias Question (in reply to Stu)

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ORIGINAL: Stu

real quick one...can/do bulerias falsetas ever start on 1??

NEVER....

kidding...

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 6 2009 14:21:04

Stu

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RE: Quick Bulerias Question (in reply to Ricardo)

quote:

NEVER....

that got me all confused for a second.

the big space worked a treat as my browser was half off the bottom of my screen

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 6 2009 16:20:37

XXX

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RE: Quick Bulerias Question (in reply to Stu)

I would say yes, but i dont know what a bulerias is. So i would trust Ricardos comment more and say NEVER.

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Pimientito

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RE: Quick Bulerias Question (in reply to Ricardo)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ricardo

NEVER....

kidding...

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 7 2009 1:00:34

Stu

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RE: Quick Bulerias Question (in reply to Pimientito)

so how often does this happen?
just as often as starting anywhere else. more often or less??

I haven't played a great deal of variations of bulerias but nearly all the falsetas I've learnt seem to have started on 12.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 7 2009 2:44:07

Ailsa

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RE: Quick Bulerias Question (in reply to Stu)

Ask Tony at your next lesson!

I'm no expert, but about half the falsetas I know start on 1, so I would say quite a lot of them.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 7 2009 3:11:53

Ricardo

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RE: Quick Bulerias Question (in reply to Stu)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Stu

so how often does this happen?
just as often as starting anywhere else. more often or less??

I haven't played a great deal of variations of bulerias but nearly all the falsetas I've learnt seem to have started on 12.

depends what year they were composed.

But yeah actually....

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 7 2009 8:27:39

Stu

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RE: Quick Bulerias Question (in reply to Ricardo)

quote:

Ask Tony at your next lesson

haha

I will do.. Its actually one of his vids from last lesson that I'm trying to transcribe and the first falseta in it starts on 1.

quote:

depends what year they were composed.

so is that true or does that smiley indicate a joke??

quote:

But yeah actually....

so does that mean more often than 12?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 8 2009 14:44:20

Ailsa

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RE: Quick Bulerias Question (in reply to Stu)

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Its actually one of his vids from last lesson that I'm trying to transcribe and the first falseta in it starts on 1.

Well if it starts on 1, I bet the phrase ends on 10. Just a wild guess.

Edit: just had another thought, perhaps the phrase really starts on 3, but there's an anacrusis on beats 1 and 2?

I cannot tell a lie, we covered this in his Bulerias class yesterday, so it's not a wild guess.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 8 2009 22:36:52

Ricardo

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RE: Quick Bulerias Question (in reply to Stu)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Stu

quote:

Ask Tony at your next lesson

haha

I will do.. Its actually one of his vids from last lesson that I'm trying to transcribe and the first falseta in it starts on 1.

quote:

depends what year they were composed.

so is that true or does that smiley indicate a joke??

quote:

But yeah actually....

so does that mean more often than 12?

sorry for the jokes. Honestly, if you look at older styles of bulerias, you see many falsetas start on 1 compared to more modern variations....but the point of the joke is that information is rather arbitrary. THe important and difficult thing of compas is not where or how it starts, but more how you maintain and express and END it....

Ricardo

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 9 2009 16:16:17