mark indigo -> RE: modern vs traditional (Dec. 10 2009 3:50:23)
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examin the technique evolution on normans site, you guys thinking about alzapua and stuff being a division. i already did... many times... from the alzapua page; "Today's players have taken the alzapúa technique to new heights" from the development of a soleares falseta page; "Paco steps up Sabicas' triplet arpeggiation to sixteenth-notes" it doesn't make it a division, but it does make it a development, no? it doesn't make it a different genre, but it does make it the current interpretation of a tradition, no? if there is no clear cut dividing line where one generational or time-period style "ends" and another "begins", does that mean that there aren't some broad and general differences between the more extreme ends of the spectrum? personally i'm not interested in pitting so-called "trad" against so-called "modern" but i am interested in how technically difficult different players' falsetas/pieces etc. are, and i have often heard people say that older is easier, so i'm interested to hear more about why that might not be so. also, i'm interested when particular evolutions or changes have ocurred thoughout the history, things like Montoya being credited with developing arpegios and tremelo's etc. and inventing the guitar Rondeña and Minera styles, Sabicas using chord shapes he might have borrowed from a jazz guitarist (at least one in my limited experience - and making it sound totally flamenco, not "jazzy" at all), through Paco playing triplet alzapua in bulerias, and the first recorded use of different keys to play the palos (i thought things like tangos, bulerias, fandangos in F#, B, G#, C#, D#/Eb was a development of the late '70's/'80's but Norman pointed out use of different keys to accompany cantes libres back in i think the '20's or '30's) - i just find it interesting, especially that it seems that for many of the so-called "modern" innovations there seem to be historical precedents, ie. that there is even a "tradition" of these things.... to me that just makes the "modern" even more a part of the "tradition"
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