estebanana -> RE: Is this an authentic Conde? (Jul. 26 2021 20:22:29)
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Gee whiz what a truly delightful high jacking of this thread. Here’s a fine point about tuners today, so many precision capable outfits are making tuners today that vintage tuners can be rebuilt or copied to a high quality. There’s non need for the bone picking from either side of this argument. Can’t we all just get along and revel in the transformation of the worlds most boring condensed milk traffic cone thread into a glorious free for all of free association? Back to your corners you animals. I tend to agree changing tuners sometimes bothers me, I don’t really call it unoriginal, I think it’s more of an adaptation to better hardware or in some cases an adulteration. Today a worn out original tuner set can be rebuilt, gears and grip shafts can be replaced too, as can rollers. Plates I would argue are the identity of the tuner, plates create the impression of quality and style. So let’s break it down even further, because I often retain the plate of a particular tuner and replace rollers to change color from black to white or change from straight rollers to rollers with Teflon spacers and end bearings. Or who has not replaced a tuner grip either for wear or to change all six to a new style of material. But you know what I haven’t changed? Plates. I keep the plates and build the malfunctioning tuner to a working tuner around the plate. I agree with Ricardo, tap plates, bridge saddle, tuners, pegs all replaceable parts and guitar remains true to original. I would add the frets and even the fingerboard is a replacement part, and I’ll go one or two further. Ribs are replaceable parts and so are bridges in an extreme case, but I’ll call a guitar unoriginal if the bridge isn’t from the maker. The top and neck is really the only I thing I consider elements you cannot replace. But for argument sake, let’s stop at the fingerboard as the last replaceable part. What determines the final value of a guitar that’s had components changed are a series of value judgments based on who did the work, how well it was done and when it was done and why. All these things can have been replaced and the guitar may lose value because of various mistakes, but accurately carried out there is no harm. Tuner swapping is a game like couples swinging, you, your guitar and God are the only ones who need to know about it. Guys who who brag about tuner swapping are more annoying than those neo hippies that go to Burning Man every summer and spend all winter in the pub telling you what they did ‘on the playa’. Nobody cares, really. Buy a round and talk about politics like a normal jerk.
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