Ricardo -> RE: Mariano Conde (Feb. 28 2024 12:31:02)
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I saw many people with X , Y , M goods and they pay a lot of money , thinkin that they were special to have an import , LMFAO.... After some years some guys purchase other licenses and they were open and anounce that , "we do the craft , we purchased the license for X top dog(s) " And nothing wrong with this. Of course this makes sense. Ramirez allowed his workmen to stamp their initials into the A models. Years later it mattered, somewhat, who build which, at least for resale. Ramirez also had B model guitars outsourced with different labels. So right there causes big confusions since the house that build them is not made clear, so there is no āwe build for top dogsā as you say. This Conde family was doing this as well, Sons and aunts, and is the main reason for the conjecture āit is not just the student guitars, it is EVERY GUITARā. So it makes even less sense that people would bold face lie about building any guitar today, since as you say there is ānothing wrong with itā. Especially for a Lawyer to out right lie about it (if Felipe is practicing law, which I assumed not), since they should know it is perfectly fine to admit the truth for the reasons your analogy shows. The only reason for keeping it a deep dark secret I could imagine is that people can order the SAME guitar for a fraction of the costā¦but it wonāt look the same (assuming some legal issue about a media Luna head and rosette for example). But that only makes sense from the direction of the top dog, not the constructor, who should be free to advertise they build the same guitar but it is their own lookā¦perhaps even better quality in someway. And no need to compete with low price, they should be able to charge the exact same (as we already see with Sanchis and B model guitars). In other words, the persons that built the A Conde guitars should be allowed to drive the market with their own name, in contrast to Luthiers with waiting lists. There would be no need to build a guitar with THEIR OWN NAME on the label as an inferior product, while producing master pieces for the top dog in madrid. Nonsensical. What I came away with 10 years ago, after playing them back to back, was that ok, whatever they did in the past will eventually be known, as for now (2014), I can now put a face to the darn instrument by how it plays and sounds, and this could explain the āgood vs badā conde situation all along. If all that means is the construction house A is better than house B, I am fine with that. I am not fine with bold face lying about building a guitar, or pretending to build a guitar. It is disturbing because there is no need for it, it is lying for the sake of fooling people for no reason. No luthier here wants to take the bait and scan through those Mariano Conde videos. Fine, I will drop it there. It only took me a few minutes to scrub through them. If pros in spain believe in Mariano and their MC guitars are legit, I am happy for them. Felipe Jr. guitar, the first one I played had a minor flawā¦the type you simply never see on Valencia guitars, especially the ones they are pushing at higher prices. It is a type of flaw I have seen on hand built Luthier made guitars. It was a cedar top which I hate, and there was no right for that guitar to sound and play that good. It was a silly detail and long conversation. If that guitar was built by Alhambra in Valencia or in china whatever, great. Give that builder a medal and make a movie about his guitars. It makes no sense to be a big scam.
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